In reply to a post by cjdavid:

I'm curious, how accurate is 'code look' when it comes to due dates for cabinets to go live?

Mine says live by October 2016 lol. Stuck on March 31st 2017 on bt wholesale though

Codelook cabinet data seemingly updates on a quarterly basis, presumably BT publish some sort of database at the end of each quarter.

Last update to the BT WBC data was 9th September.

My cabinet shows as 'being connected' on codelook, but the Openreach site shows it as accepting orders (although we're still waiting on the LTL migration).

Just a small additional update since not much has been happening recently, if I check S10 3LZ on the Virgin Media website, it would appear that they're currently working on rolling out their services to the area.

S103LZ
Great news! We�re on our way�
We�re excited to tell you that work has already begun on expanding our network to your community. We�re expecting to be able to connect this area to Virgin Media services very soon, so please register to find out more

I don't seem to be as lucky however, as I'm getting a slightly different message (but still more promising than what Openreach have told me).

Edited by thebigdolphin1 (Tue 06-Dec-16 22:30:49)

In reply to a post by thebigdolphin1:

Just a small additional update since not much has been happening recently, if I check S10 3LZ on the Virgin Media website, it would appear that they're currently working on rolling out their services to the area.

S103LZ
Great news! We�re on our way�
We�re excited to tell you that work has already begun on expanding our network to your community. We�re expecting to be able to connect this area to Virgin Media services very soon, so please register to find out more

I don't seem to be as lucky however, as I'm getting a slightly different message (but still more promising than what Openreach have told me).

Before I start, I would like to say sorry for the long post, so put the kettle on.

I got that from VM a few years back when I entered my address into their checker, I also registered to find out more, I even got a phone call from them stating they are starting to do my area, I explained that our area is a conservation area and asked them if that would be an issue, where I was told no.

Now a month goes past and I hear or see nothing happening so I phone them to be told they are in our area but need to send out a surveyor to decide where to place their cabinets which could take a few weeks and that they would get back to me on the result.

Another month goes past and nothing so I phone once again to be told exactly the same thing as the month before.

And this goes on for at least 7 to 8 months, at this point I had had enough and demanded to speak to their manager, but due to not getting a good enough reason for the delay I had it escalated a few levels until I spoke to guy high up which explained it to me that due to our area being consecration area they wouldn't be allowed to place the cabinets down our road which is required for their service, I told the guy that I explained that a number of times when I was on the phone to one of his team members.

I followed on to ask him what can be done to get this resolved, sadly he said nothing.
At this point I was rather annoyed this due to the last several months being told everything is fine and that it will be done soon, I then asked do they have a possible date, where he said nothing in the next 10 or so years.

This didn't help much, so I said the him, so basically your team lied to me for the last several months, why couldn't they just be honest and say this at the start.

In my eyes both companies are as bad as each other at misleading the public, they are both a bunch of liars.

But at least BT have they own underground network already in place and didn't require cabinets down each road like VM does.

This is why BT have less of a issue with conservation areas than which VM does.

Also parts of my area were lucky due to we ended up getting our FTTP go live, but my local MP and myself really had to work hard and I mean really hard to get this done, it did take 4 nearly 5 years to get done.

I am rather glad that we stuck with BT due to a few friends round the corner from me that do have VM, have had nothing but issues with the stability and speed and have been told by VM that it will be resolved within the next few years.

I think this issue with VM that they are having is due to where our areas currently got at the time very bad ADSL speeds and there was no sign of fibre being installed they all jumped on the VM train and got VM which I was told was fine at first but over time got worse and worst.

I assume this was as more and more people moved over to VM and VM wasn't ready for that many people and their infrastructure couldn't and still cannot handle that many people.

I know a few people was lucky and got FTTC completed in their areas, but the people still on VM near me are still having issues.

Basically BT back in 2011 - 2012 was rolling out FTTC and FTTP on our exchange and for some reason stopped in mid install for some unknown reason, its only now 4 to 5 years later they are now coming back t finish of some of them as part of LEP as well as the commercial project, I can see that their is still over 12K lines still waiting to be finished due to some being partly done.

So as you can see both companies are as bad as each other.

Paul

the issue is 2 fold
Commercial FTTP cost fortune so most of it got Stopped
the resource the move to do the BDUK contracts so pust to get majority of commercial programme completed
FTTP now via connectorised block fundamental different costs - so some fttp being now resolved and delivered

In reply to a post by Fastman2:

the issue is 2 fold
Commercial FTTP cost fortune so most of it got Stopped
the resource the move to do the BDUK contracts so pust to get majority of commercial programme completed
FTTP now via connectorised block fundamental different costs - so some fttp being now resolved and delivered

Well funny you say that, the 12K lines that are still waiting are and was part of the FTTP Commercial Project, so that is possibly the reason now.

I know at one point we were put on hold for the BDUK projects due to their contractual deadlines, that's fine, but over that time they did forget about our exchange.

This was confirmed to me (cant say who by), but most of those 12K lines already had all the FTTP hardware in place like us, the only difference was already a line on our hardware that already had FTTP.
So that was the only reason in my mind why we ended up getting FTTP when I contacted Gavin Patterson and Michael Rake with this information.

But if BT are to go down the new connector types lets hope they finish off the rest.

I know the remaining on my cabinet that was down for FTTP back in 2011 - 2012 that most already have the hardware is being downgraded to FTTC at first and then optionally G.FAST later on.

So maybe the ones without the FTTP hardware in place will have the G.FAST on the cabinet when its done and the ones with the FTTP hardware in place will get the G.FAST in the chamber by their phone poles.

But all this is assumption at the moment.

Paul

Oh I'm well aware that Virgin Media is far from being trustworthy and reliable, but at least it's a second chance at something being done. I honestly wouldn't mind if the connection was unstable, at least I wouldn't be constantly stuck with 3Mbps all the time. Openreach seem to be showing no interest at all in upgrading our local cabinet.

Unfortunately, it appears that VM have no plans to upgrade my postcode, yet they're showing interest in the block of postcodes located behind my address - possibly because I'm on a main road, or that it's only a single-sided street.

Is there any way to contact VM about their rollout process and any local plans, or have I got to wait for them to contact me first (from the cable my street registration)?

Alright? It's been a while since anything has happened. I've checked on roadworks today, and there appears to be a new listing stating "CLEAR BLOCKAGES" for the next week. It's nearby to the cabinet, although in a bit of a weird location if the works are related - if it is, it's likely that they will route the cables down the footpath rather than the road (presumably as it's easier or less expensive?), but that still seems a bit of a weird move.

I haven't been able to find any additional information out as of yet, but I will continue to e-mail various people regarding our cabinet in hopes of an update or progress. What I do know is that the majority of BDUK cabinets on our exchange have been completed, so it shouldn't be long until we're at the top of the priority list again.

As for the Virgin Media rollout I previously mentioned, it would appear that our area is no longer in the same set of plans it originally was, and that we're just a potential future project.

Edited by thebigdolphin1 (Mon 30-Jan-17 19:46:54)

Interesting.

I'm pretty certain the eventual route will be down that footpath - that was definitely the original plan. A few notices went up previously to that effect.

Not sure how the duct blockages fit in with that, as I don't think they have laid the duct there yet.

Now that a second listing has appeared, it implies that the blockage may be beneath the actual road between the two manhole covers. Will be interesting to see how this plays out, but I still don't think we'll be connected any time soon.

I passed the area around an hour ago while I was travelling on the bus, and saw them doing various works. They were removing some thin yellow tubing (a couple hundred meters of it) from the B.T. manhole outside of the golf club.

Unfortunately, I was in too much of a rush to stop and ask what it is they were doing and if they knew any additional information on the scheduled works of our cabinet.