ricahrd I would not get fibre on demand if there are couple at farm Ie more that one lline / Business of you suggest you contact [email protected] - fibre could be run down the 1.4km and put a connectorised block at entrance to premises -- that will be a better commercial proposition as it s direct arrangement with Openreah to build the network -- which no excess construction charges and then once Its done you by a Standard FTTP product on a yearly term contract

Hi,

The threading on this forum is a little hard to follow for a newbie, so apologies if I am replying in the wrong place/miss some questions.

To address some of the points raised:

* "Guaranteed data rate" - I've not heard this term before either, but Plusnet seem to be using it to determine the speed below which they'll release me from my contract.

* As I've stated elsewhere I was skeptical of the advertised speed, however given there is nothing to lose by signing up to 80Mbps I thought I'd give it a punt. I expected, and would be happy for the time being with around 14 to 16Mbps given the distance. But I am getting ~4.5Mbps, whilst my neighbour gets ~8Mbps. I'd seen the "Mark Heath" graph before and it is what I was basing my expectation on.

* I've PM'd the person asking for my postcode

* I'm not sure where the DP is, there doesn't appear to be one next to the cab from what I can tell, but I am not sure what to look for! The main farmhouse was on an EO line, but the barns were converted about 14 years ago and were plumbed into a cabinet.

* I've emailed [email protected] - will see what they come back.


My original post may have been a little wordy, but essentially

* I am convinced I should be getting more bandwidth than I am - especially given my immediate neighbour is getting roughly double what I am. So any suggestions on what I need to do/say when dealing with Plusnet/Openreach to get them to deal with the problem properly rather than just being stuck in a loop between them would be appreciated

* If the max we can achieve on the farm from FTTC is ~9Mbps what other options, short of a massive investment in a leased line, do we have at this point?

Edited by deleted (Sun 04-Dec-16 10:10:48)

Thinking on:

* I'm not sure where the DP is, there doesn't appear to be one next to the cab from what I can tell, but I am not sure what to look for! The main farmhouse was on an EO line, but the barns were converted about 14 years ago and were plumbed into a cabinet.

We have two BT manhole covers in the courtyard, I have assumed one feeds one set of barns whilst the second feeds the other - would the DP's not be in those?

I have asked Openreach to lift the mahole covers and check the state of whatever is underneath, however the engineer said he wasn't allowed and an underground engineer would need to do it. I am currently waiting on one of those (didn't show up at the allotted appointment day/time).

Not sure why thread started down the DP path...

Postcode itself is 2km away from the cabinet, and thus unless the DP is also at the cabinet (very rare and odd as other premises and postcodes existing between posters location and the cabinet and get correct estimates).

Our system suggests 2 Mbps or less from VDSL2.

Only possibility is that a new cabinet has been built very close, but no sign of this having happened, so it looks as if the BT Wholesale checker has a mistake in it it (face of feigned shock), generally the errors are about not getting it, and sometimes the errors reveal something that is planned, so if original poster pesters me via email on Monday I'll pester Openreach in turn to get this checked, and as I suspect reducing the checker to a 2 to 4 Mbps or less VDSL2 speed.

Why don't you know why it started down the DP path?

I'll also confirm that predicted speed is based on the DP. Often records don't exist for cabling from the DP to the house, especially in rural areas.

He's given his address to the provider who have queried it with the Openreach database which has matched it to a DP. He's then been told an estimated speed to that DP. But he's miles away from the DP and that's why the speed is rubbish.

The DP itself COULD be very near the cabinet, you've no reason to think it isn't.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

As I said earlier need to know the postcode and which premise, before everyone starts trying to score points against each other in the Broadband Hunger Games

No one is trying to score points against each other. But you've got several Openreach people telling you that it is not at all unusual to have a DP near a cab, and then a very long run of carrier poles to a farm. But you're saying you don't understand why we are talking about the DP.

Edited by deleted (Mon 05-Dec-16 08:10:30)

The estimates are supposed to be for an individual premises. You appear to be suggesting the estimates would be the same for all premises connected to the DP, but this is not the case.

Premise -- Something previously stated or a base assumption
Premises -- A house or building, together with its land and outbuildings

So it is fibre to premises not fibre to premise.

You beat me to it.
This really winds me up too.

In reply to a post by Thumper:

You beat me to it.

Beat you to it? You've only just registered...

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Thumper:

You beat me to it.

Beat you to it? You've only just registered...

I was replying to the post by RobertoS.

What is the relevance in that I registered about a month ago?