Except you replied to BatBoy, who gets it right, not to either of the two who always get it wrong even after having it pointed out many times.

Why people refuse to accept it when repeatedly presented with the dictionary definition is beyond me. It isn't just in the forums it is always incorrectly used.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

The estimates are supposed to be for an individual premises. You appear to be suggesting the estimates would be the same for all premises connected to the DP, but this is not the case.

All I can tell you is that I've been told by many different people on the FTTC helpdesk at Openreach that the speed estimate is to the DP only. Anything after the DP is not taken into account.

That's all I know, do you work for Openreach yourself? If you do, ask them yourself.

Edited by deleted (Mon 05-Dec-16 10:51:09)

It was all just DP based at one time, but plan was to nuance it and improve over time.

In this case the great distance is readily apparent on the map, and doubt the DP is located close to the cabinet in this case

Thanks again for the response.

"Our system" - what system is that?

Looking at the "Mark Heath" raw distance vs speed graph it suggests around 16.5Mbps for a 2km distance - what is the reason for such a large delta between your system and this graph? i.e. what additional information/data is your system taking into account that this graph isn't?

Our table on speeds over distance which pre-dates Mr Heath is at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/guide/fibre-broadband.... the public copy stops at 1.5km because things become much more variable at that distance.

Our system - i.e. the system that feeds https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local

So while 16 Mbps at 2km is possible for some and we see some (we have a distance/speed plot created from speed tests - not published this yet but indicates no big rush needed to update our distance model) a much safer estimate would be 5 to 10 Mbps.

Those getting 16 Mbps at 2km are probably on thicker copper, and without access to all the local line records you have no way of knowing.

You see if I could get 10Mbps then I'd probably be more happy At least that would allow us to do more than just stream Netflix at one time.

I guess I am just wondering how realistic it is to keep pushing Plusnet with my fault and when to give up. There's a big functional and real world difference between 4.5Mbps and 10Mbps....

Although the British often think it means an absolute undertaking to do something, a guarantee normally just means your money back if the problem can't be fixed eg guaranteed delivery by Christmas means your money back if it does not arrive in time, not that is is absolutely certain that it will.