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(deleted) Thu 08-Dec-16 15:39:45
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Re: New AIO Cabinet goes live then delay ........


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
No, 100% looking at correct data. The exchange has been live for FTTC for a number of years and I've been getting FTTC from NEWICK Cabinet 2 for two years, which is 1200m from me. BT OR have now placed cabinet 9 which is an AIO box 50m from me (Powered and Fans Turning). The checker showed 2 statuses. If you currently are connected to FTTC to cabinet 2 it showed connected to 2 but the speeds that you might get from 9. If you had have no FTTC it shows that you are connected to cabinet 9 and the speed estimate. The status was set to available for 48hr, then showed 17th January for orders, now BT have removed all reference of FTTC from cabinet 9. It's now impossible to tell if BT are having database issues or there is a technical problem. I do hope BT manage to get it sorted and we get VDSL from this cabinet before it rust and crumbles back into the ground.
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(deleted) Thu 08-Dec-16 15:46:56
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The databases are often very messed up when an AIO cabinet is being commisioned.

A little patience is all that's required.
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(deleted) Thu 08-Dec-16 17:19:32
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Sorry I've lost patience with these people, they are there to serve themselves not customers. Maybe BT should release an infinite amount of monkeys with crimping tools to get the job done. BT stood this cabinet in April, dug a trench August, connected it to fibre in Oct, Powered it up in November and then seem to have gone into some strange twilight administration zone. I does strike me that if an BT Openreach Executive was tied to each cabinet when they where first sited and you could throw rotting food at them as you drove by, then the time to taking orders could be radically improved.


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(deleted) Thu 08-Dec-16 17:27:12
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There will be a valid reason.

Openreach don't leave expensive kit idle for comedic value. Kit which isn't live isn't generating cash.
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(deleted) Thu 08-Dec-16 17:50:09
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There have been a lot of problems with the AIO cabinets, exacerbated by Openreach's inability to communicate even internally let alone with ISPs and their customers. As a result of this I have been without a service since 31 October and the best Openreach are promising is, like the cabinet in this thread, to reopen it for orders on 17 January 2017. This is probably just a hope for the best date rather than a planned one

No one is saying what the exact cause of these problems is, but they relate in part to live to live migrations. In my discussion with engineers (there have been lots of very unhappy Openreach engineers called to the cabinet in the last few weeks) and what the ISPs have been able to glean from Openreach there have been a number of failed migrations

All these have been characterised by the failure of the migration team to tell the parts of Openreach which deal with faults, new orders, and interface with the ISPs what is going on. So the engineers are being sent out on wild goose chases all over East Anglia on failed cabinet migrations which they are unable to deal with, and face a daily ear bashing from disgruntled customers who have been without a service for weeks. This is happening so often they have now been offered overtime to work on Saturdays to clear the backlog of other faults.
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(fountain of knowledge) Thu 08-Dec-16 19:20:14
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In reply to a post by lee111s:
There will be a valid reason.

Openreach don't leave expensive kit idle for comedic value. Kit which isn't live isn't generating cash.

Erm yes they do.

Our lower part of my road and side roads have had FTTP hardware in place since 2011 - 2012 its all live and has fibre going to them from our splitter node which is located the bottom of our road, we (as in everyone on our phone pole) was only given FTTP due to I showed proof its live due to a home 4 doors from me had it, sadly everyone else that could get FTTP if BT flicked the switch (i.e. bottom of my road) cannot order fibre, and I have been told they are being downgraded to FTTC and that they will have to wait for a FTTC cabinet to be installed.

So they do leave expensive kit idle for comedic value and waste even more money when they downgrade them.

I just thought I would mention that.

Paul

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Standard User witchunt
(member) Thu 08-Dec-16 19:40:15
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Come across cabinets that have stood incomplete for years while openreach move on elsewhere. The cabinet which would have provided FTTC where I used to live has stood incomplete for over 5 years now. Openreach have only recently revisited it with a view to complete it.

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(fountain of knowledge) Thu 08-Dec-16 20:01:26
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Well I know one of our PCP cabinets that supplies our road and side roads is a very old cast iron one that's in a very bad state, BT installed a brand new PCP cabinet about a few feet from it about 2 or so years ago and its yet to even be used.

Paul

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Edited by PaulKirby (Thu 08-Dec-16 20:01:57)

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gerarda ........ Interesting that the 17th January is a date that appeared for two unrelated AIO cabinets (now disappeared in my case). Maybe this is a date that Openreach have decided that they will become sentient. BTOR are clearly trying to reduce cost to a minimum by using the cheapest possible labour for each task step in FTTC deployment, their parsimoniousness is I'm sure welcomed when it comes to Executive Bonus time. However for me this resulted in a my old PCP cabinet being replaced by the chuckle brothers using angle grinder to cut it away disconnecting a number of my neighbours. When the AIO cabinet had the copper run through it the contractors managed to cut off a people too. It then took a series of bewildered and inexperienced OR Engineers to figure out what had happened. It took an age for the work gang to get the pipe for the fibre through, how hard are you going to try and get past a blockage in a duct on 3.00pm on a Friday when you can make it someone else's problem? The person who "owns" the job has never been to site and the people who are on site don't "own" the job.
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Openreach laid fibre and installed a node in our village in 2013 which is all sitting idle as they changed their mind and decided to put in an FTTC cabinet instead.
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