True Fibre are the future! Real FTTP.

All these below on a copper wiring by BT is a waste of time outdated & money!
DSL
ADSL
ADSL2
ADSL2+
FTTC
FTTPoD
FTTPoD2
G.FAST
LR-VDSL

FTTP, FTTPoD.........
Copper?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

True Fibre are the future! Real FTTP.

Yes but the UK is never part of the "future" we know this.

While the 18/2 is not LR-VDSL who says the checker will distinguish.

One proviso for LR-VDSL is that there is no ADSL either, so its future is limited to areas where BT Wholesale is willing to shift people to VDSL kit, and/or the LLU operators do the same (or there be no LLU presence)

Trial has been extended to 31 March 2017 - https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefi...

"18/2 is available to order now to customers who receive less than 10M on ADSL or ADSL2+, and are also connected to an eligible cabinet."

Openreach pricing is still on the offers' page - https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/prici...

BT Wholesale cost to ISPs is £9.75 a month (ex VAT) - https://www.btwholesale.com/assets/documents/Service...

You really do spout a total load of rubbish at times.

You never have and never will understand the how a new comms product comes about, the timescales to develop it, the costs involved and the need to recover investment.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

True Fibre are the future! Real FTTP.

All these below on a copper wiring by BT is a waste of time outdated & money!

I've an idea for you max...

Create your own community of people who want FTTP. You'll find it easiest to get people to join in if you tell them you are going to pay for it. If people end up happy, you'll let them chip in a fiver next christmas time.

Then contact BT's community upgrade team. Tell them you have a group of people who want the whole of Cuckoo Oak upgraded to FTTP, and that you'll pay.

BT will be really happy with you: you are saving them from that wasted time and money.

We know you don't mind paying for it all - because you never mention anything about having to make a profit when you comment on fibre stories. Who cares about profit, right?

Thanks Andy. I wonder how I missed that?

I did look for it and thought I went to the special offers.

Your points are what make me think this 18/2 product is targeted at both types of user and sold the same way. With the DSLAM choosing whether the 17 or 8 Profile is used.

Just notice my BTw availability checker shows
WBC FTTC 18x2 Provide Availability === YES

This looks interesting as as I'm only syncing at around 23Mbps up 0.6Mbps down on a 55/10 product.
Any news on which, if any, ISP's are providing this product?