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Standard User leexgx
(committed) Thu 29-Dec-16 23:08:37
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the survey is only valid for BT doing the work

if you get a "contractor" to do it BT wont let them use there ducts and poles, you have to get the ground all dug up so you can lay new pipes (cost a lot more) and other issues as well

BT/Openreach in most cases is your only option unless you do point to point wireless broadband

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 30-Dec-16 23:39:13
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Hi, thanks for the reply.

So if we get back in contact with BT and tell them we will lay the ducting from the fibre source to the top of the village and all you need to do is blow the fibre and then attach it to the poles through the village that won't require a survey?

I know a contractor can't use BT's existing ducts and poles, but they should be able to deploy the new ducting for a lot less than BT, i'm sure BT charge around £25-£30 a meter, i know one contactor charged £4 per meter a few years ago, his rates may have gone up since then. I could potentially lay the ducting myself but i would need to make sure it was carried out correctly.
Standard User cymru123
(regular) Sat 31-Dec-16 09:44:30
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Getting the fibre cables to the village is one thing, however then distributing the fibre around the village is another - therefore they may still have to survey within the village itself. Here Openreach are having to add new chambers, ducts and poles just to install the equipment and to distribute the fibre cables so the service coverage area meets the criteria (plus room for expansion). All this needs to be planned and survey so an optimal service is provided.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 11:43:52
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That makes sense. I'm trying to plan out some routes for the ducting, do you know how far apart access chambers are? or is there not a set distance.
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 31-Dec-16 13:04:32
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In reply to a post by MikeJG:
That makes sense. I'm trying to plan out some routes for the ducting, do you know how far apart access chambers are? or is there not a set distance.

I might be missing something, but FTTP uses the current chambers that are used for the copper lines.

Didn't BT say a while back that they have no issues in other companies using they underground network and poles to provide broadband ?

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 14:09:40
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Hi Paul, thanks for the reply. It would depend on which route we take as to whether or not we could use the current chambers that copper use. The copper that comes to my village as far as we know follows the roadside about 3KM. My plan was to possibly use farmers fields from the village to the fibre source.

As far as i know BT are fine with other companies using there network. But i would get a contractor in to deploy the ducting from the fibre source to the village, which they have allowed in the past.
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(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 15:43:10
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this is based on Openreach doing the work

you would have had an original range figure of between 25 - 50k prior to the costing being accepted (which I assume you where advised and confirmed you could raise -- not sure how you think that this could now be 20k

you cannot do anything in the public highway without a licence
this is all based on private funding so not sure what grants you think you can access - however (there is some additional funding relating to Bt grouo and schools but that's matched on pro rata of what you can raise
that assumed circa £2,500 per premises based on FTTP -- (that's quite consistent based on the real world) or Gettting to places rather then paper world of others who think everything costs 50p
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(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 15:44:57
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hhhmmm so which contractor is that -- as I think your are misinformed
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 15:47:33
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The Survey is to ensure all premises can actually gain an fttp service without ECCs; and that all premises can gain a service -- the Survey fee is mandatory

the survey all has to ensure that actually service can be provided and that all permissions and land ownership issues are understood
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(deleted) Sat 31-Dec-16 15:50:52
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depends what you mean by other companies if you are talking about a communication prover and PIA-- that then is not a CFP and you would not have any access to openreach and that would between you and the communication provider and the numbers would be quire different
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