In reply to a post by MikeJG:

Hi Paul, thanks for the reply. It would depend on which route we take as to whether or not we could use the current chambers that copper use. The copper that comes to my village as far as we know follows the roadside about 3KM. My plan was to possibly use farmers fields from the village to the fibre source.

As far as i know BT are fine with other companies using there network. But i would get a contractor in to deploy the ducting from the fibre source to the village, which they have allowed in the past.

We are also about 3km from our exchange, but the length has no issue with fibre, plus the extra few metres isn't going to cost that much more.

TBH, I would follow the exact route the copper line takes from the exchange to the properties, that way there is no digging unless there is blockages, resulting in a lower cost.

If BT can get a copper phone line to you then they should be able to get FTTP to you, its all down to cost.

Paul

Assuming there is adequate duct space and they goto a suitable aggregation node, bearing in mind the fibre head end is most likely in a different exchange, the existing duct route may or may not be of use.

the design will have viewed what is there / not there and if you have been advised there is no duct in the design that indicated there is what it termed Direct in Ground / Buried cable) which will need to have a new ducted rout to blow fibre down and it suggest that is in the highway somewhere not close to you

Following the existing copper would cost a bit because it's along the roadside, if we can get permission from landowners. we would just go on the inside of the fields near the road if that makes sense. We are 3KM from the fibre source not the exchange, BT showed us a map of all available fibre points we could connect to and that was the closest.

Yeah BT have said they can deliver FTTP to my village of 20 but its going to be at least 70K. But that could change after the survey, Fell end community managed to deploy 15KM network for £88,000 but they got a contractor in, the same one i am thinking about getting.

The original figure was around 70k, that was for openreach to do all the work, what i was thinking about doing was planning our own route and either deploy the ducting from the fibre source to the top of the village and then all openreach would have to do is blow the fibre/attach it to the poles about 200m. I've read on some sites that the civils (laying hte ducts) can account for around 70-80% of the cost. So if we could either do it ourselves for free or get a contractor in we should be able to save a hell of a lot.

A high proportion of the costs is down to the indemnities and such like those doing the work must have.

Openreach will need to own all the equipment and ensure the route is accessible -

interesting to see who you could get to civil in the Highway as that has to be approved as you cant do it

I assume you that whoever you spoke to in the CFP team told you how much this was likely to be when you started the process -- ie you know it was going to be expensive

you have 2 choices you either take to OR Gap fund quote
or you try and DIY yourself but you wont get access to the network without a communications provider and its does appear you own the land and you wnay be able to deal with anyone at openreach on as it wont be a CFP opportunity any more

and even if you could do what you say the survey fee would still need to be undertake and a formal confirmation for your contract would be required

don't assume that that is where all the cost is -as openreach needs to ensure that can be brought into its network once its live

The contractor should he's layed ducting for communities before

as I said which contractor and which communities -- an are they openreach CFP' ones

Contractor is ts trenching and the community i know of is fell end.