so fellend was not a community fibre partnership -- its was completely different done in a different way - and not sure whether that was all openreach network -- so not the same at all

It was done before CFP was formed,it pretty much formed the whole CFP scheme, but it followed a similar format. I've been chatting with one of the members of the community, trying to get some advice. She said that ts-trenching done all the laying of the ducting and BT done all the fibre work.

To be clear - this was not part of any CFP scheme or come under any gap funded
model - it was done outside of that --- actually CFP started in Preston village in Herts in 2011 !!!!

CFP is direct contract between the Community and Openreach where the network build and the in frastructure become the responsibility of and part of the BT Estate

I see, fair enough.

http://www.btplc.com/News/regions/#/pressreleases/en...

This is what i can't understand, they deploy a 2KM network for 15 houses across ''stretch of challenging fellside'' free of charge and then my village of 20 but could be 24 if they include the properties on the way they won't provide a 2.7-3KM network across fairly standard terrain. So frustrating.

Where does it say that BT provided that fellside connection for free? Are you saying that Connecting Cumbria or some other scheme didn't provide some or all of the finance?

We're not a rural hamlet but instead in central London and as a consequence outside the scope of BDUK funding. As a community we gap funded (c£19K) a network rearrangement that now allows our community of 75 properties to have access to FTTC connections. Given our upgrade was not considered commercially viable without additional funding it comes as no surprise that BT consider your proposal to be commercially unviable.

as I have clrealy stated this was not a CFP and was outside of anything else

mike you clearly must have known this this was likely circa 25 - 50k when you started this as that I understand that is pert of the pre qualification process

private funded FTTP in the middle of nowhere with some no duct thrown in and extensive civils always going to expensive and in the 1,000 of pounds per premise - so you estimate which is 70 for 20 premises is circa 2.5 - 3ok per premise