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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 08-Jan-17 12:44:30
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Re: Connecting to the master socket


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 08-Jan-17 12:48:16
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Local branch - not stocked. And who would be using Cat6 cable for a flying lead.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-Jan-17 13:00:08
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I was making the point that Maplin do offer their intended consumer groups choice of connector for stranded or solid, clearly not suggesting those are the correct items to use, hence why I said 'the first relevant item', I'm sure your inner pedant knew that though.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-Jan-17 13:05:29
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For info, I've emailed one of my on-call comms. Tech's as to why they would use solid cable for 'flying leads' the answer is due to loss of signal in stranded cable patch leads over 2 metres - and as to why you'd need patch leads over two metres, well you only need to take a look at any server room that has been 'revised' more than once.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 08-Jan-17 13:13:59
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Rubbish. As most of the current tends to flow on the outer layers of each strand - skin effect, then a straded cable will offer a lower impedance than a solid one. However, overall an Cat5e or Cat 6 cable should be able to provide full inspec operation over a length of up to 100m - and that applies to both stranded and solid.


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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-Jan-17 14:24:03
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In reply to a post by MHC:
Rubbish. As most of the current tends to flow on the outer layers of each strand - skin effect, then a straded cable will offer a lower impedance than a solid one. However, overall an Cat5e or Cat 6 cable should be able to provide full inspec operation over a length of up to 100m - and that applies to both stranded and solid.
Agreed.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-Jan-17 15:09:46
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In reply to a post by MHC:
Rubbish. As most of the current tends to flow on the outer layers of each strand - skin effect, then a straded cable will offer a lower impedance than a solid one. However, overall an Cat5e or Cat 6 cable should be able to provide full inspec operation over a length of up to 100m - and that applies to both stranded and solid.
care to provide any reference for that supposition?
An 'opinion' from a manufacturer used by one of our subsidiaries.
http://www.cat-5-cable-company.com/faq-stranded-VS-s...

Another 'opinion' from http://www.scpcat5e.com/solid-vs-stranded-category-c...

Stranded Category Cables have a higher attenuation than solid category cables. Depending on your application, you should restrict their use to short distances. SCP recommends that you use stranded category cables for applications under 6 meters/ 20 feet. We manufacture long length stranded Cat5e and stranded Cat6 cables up to 100 ft/30 meters, but their use should be restricted to non-HD applications.

I suggest you wind your opinionated neck in.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-Jan-17 16:41:03
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The plug I've used is designed for solid cables.

Since my fibre was installed 4 years ago, I've used one pair of solid CAT5E cable from the IDC to a socket in a different room. From there I've linked to my modem. This has always worked fine.

Now I have a length of the same cable linking from the IDC and terminated on a RJ11. This is connected to the openreach modem. From the modem iconnect to a pfSence router.

Everything is working fine.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-Jan-17 16:52:02
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Which is exactly what I'd expect. 'non -standard' doesn't necessarily equate to wrong, just not within the 99th percentile of usage cases.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-Jan-17 17:14:20
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Still a cowboy way of doing it in my opinion.
Run a cable to a data extension socket and from there connect in the rj11 cable.

I'm not saying it'll cause any issues the way it has been done, it's just not ideal. The op came here for advice which we all provided, if the advice followed here was implemented BT openreach would not blink an eye lid at the setup, doing it the way the op has will cause an openreach engineer to frown.
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