G.Fast is not yet an Openreach mainstream product.

330/50 would have to be the Openreach 500/165 product. Very odd.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 21-Jan-17 14:29:58)

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

I know they don't do the 330 Mbps and what BT do sell is 300, so that's 30Mbps lower.

BT Retail's Infinity 4 is the 330/30, it's just they sell it as 300/30. Same as Infinity 3 is the 220/20 service, but sold as 200/20.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

I know they don't do the 330 Mbps and what BT do sell is 300, so that's 30Mbps lower.

BT Retail's Infinity 4 is the 330/30, it's just they sell it as 300/30. Same as Infinity 3 is the 220/20 service, but sold as 200/20.

Yeah, I know, that was what I was getting at.

Paul

The original pricing was for FIBRE ON DEMAND, which is NOT BT Infinity 1-4 products

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

The original pricing was for FIBRE ON DEMAND, which is NOT BT Infinity 1-4 products

Sorry, that was my fault I brought up FTTP.

Paul

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

G.Fast is not yet an Openreach mainstream product.

Yeah, I am aware of that atm.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

330/50 would have to be the Openreach 500/165 product. Very odd.

Well I know we "might" be willing to go with the 330/50 if the price wasn't that much different than what we are paying now.

Would be nice to actually see the price for that actual FTTP version of 500/165 package, not that we would go for that, but the 330/50 maybe.

But at the end of the day, it boils down to the price and would we actually use all that.

I know at one point we did use the full 300Mbps down when 4 of us here were downloading, but that hardly happens.
The 30 Mbps upstream has been used several times now for uploading content.

Paul

We're aware of that, it's just GEA-FTTP was brought up.

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

Would be nice to actually see the price for that actual FTTP version of 500/165 package, not that we would go for that, but the 330/50 maybe.

See my link in this post.

As I say there, you need to scroll down through the first table to the second that contains the faster speeds. Where you can see there is nothing that fits sensibly with a wholesale/retail 330/50 supply. Which is why I said that would have to be 500/165-based.

Then of course you have the wholesale and retail margins to add, plus Vat if you can't reclaim it.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 21-Jan-17 15:57:16)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

Would be nice to actually see the price for that actual FTTP version of 500/165 package, not that we would go for that, but the 330/50 maybe.

See my link in this post.

As I say there, you need to scroll down through the first table to the second that contains the faster speeds. Where you can see there is nothing that fits sensibly with a wholesale/retail 330/50 supply. Which is why I said that would have to be 500/165-based.

Then of course you have the wholesale and retail margins to add, plus Vat if you can't reclaim it.

Just checked and you are right.
I did get a bit confused to do with the pricing, but that was due to looking into the first table, where as the second table seems about the right pricing.

I also saw:

6. Until further notice, orders for the 500 Mbit and 1000 Mbit variants must be raised as 330Mbit services with agreed additional text added. The detailed processes will be provided to participating CPs

Paul

Yes, I saw that Note 6. I take that to mean the Openreach ordering system can't easily be amended for the extra options to be added .