Which part do you not understand or need explaining?

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

Which part do you not understand or need explaining?

The part where you think you're correct when you're so clearly incorrect..
TBH I'm sure you have better things to do than trying to argue wrong is right, so let's leave it there

Have a look at the terms of using the checker. Have a look at the the quarterly BBAC manuals.

Clearly it's for end users when the link to it is found behind the password protected BT Wholesale portal giving a description that it's for ISPs to check single broadband availability. I guess I shouldn't then mention about the XML version or the version where you enter a username/password...

Says the loser who is wrong 99.9999999999% of the time. Har har!

Given that the Terms of Use Andy referred to state the user is accessing a larger site which requires account login, and so far as I know nothing else on that site is publicly accessible, how do you explain:

- the clearly end user-oriented wording BatBoy pointed out (and there is more) which is mixed in with ISP-related stuff?;
- the fact it is accessible to the public and has been for many years?

I suggest Andy is right in that it was originally designed for CP use, but that BatBoy is right in that BT Wholesale has deliberately made it publicly available.

As for the content of your post, a pure personal attack. Which if "Reported", (do you have the Report this post button that many of us have?), would result in the deletion of it.

There are quite a few pages from BT Wholesale where the links are behind a protected site, but the actual pages are available for all. The checker is found at:

https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/adsl.htm?s...

Every ISP (BT Wholesale customer) has a login for the DSL checker. Each time an end user searches broadband availability with their ISP, there is a check against a XML page of the above checker with the ISP's username/password. This then allows the ISP to display the broadband availability options for the end user:

(a) The Broadband Availability Checker is provided ONLY for use where the customer visits your website to find out if they can receive Broadband or whether they can be provided with a different customer access option and at what Line Rate.

I cannot answer why BT wholesale chose to allow everyone access to the checker, but it's certainly not designed for end users (with the username/password, it provides a lot more information). There are regular updates to the checker and 200+ page manuals to go with it.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

I cannot answer why BT wholesale chose to allow everyone access to the checker, but it's certainly not designed for end users (with the username/password, it provides a lot more information). There are regular updates to the checker and 200+ page manuals to go with it.

Which proves BatBoy's point really.

I agreed with you that it was clearly not designed for end users. All the stuff below the table was only of interest to a tiny few, even when it was relevant to CPs.

The fact remains that the subset of what it presents to CPs, (I accept your statement here about that), is what the public is aware of. Your bald statement:-

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

You might be surprised, but the BT Wholesale DSL checker is not designed for end users.

was bound to cause confusion. A simple addition to it, possibly "What the public (forum members here) see is only part of what CPs see" would have saved a lot of acrimony, as it would then have made sense.

I agree with both you and him. I certainly wasn't aware of what you just said, and I never understood why the public would want to know what all the gubbage was for. I understood what is was about but didn't see why it was there. Even more so in 2017 .

Update: After more exchanges between PlusNet and BT my cabinet is now active and I have FTTC, don't know why there was such a long delay. BT originally committed the order to complete on 21st March but they very kindly expedited the completion date to 25th Feb!

Cabinet distance is around 350 metres, stats look good but I am probably the first connection on the cab, plenty of noise margin in hand, I think it's about 17dB on download. Sync 79987 Mbps Down 19999 Mbps Up.

Speed test http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Having been on ADSLMax for the last 10 years or so it seems some of my equipment is unable to deal with the increase in speed, but I have an Asus RTAC68U waiting to be commissioned. Should work well with my HG612 modem. As for the slow computers I have a feeling upgrades will be required!

Thanks for all the help and advice from various posters on this thread.

Edited by Realalemadrid (Sun 26-Feb-17 15:11:36)