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Standard User Pgre
(experienced) Sun 29-Jan-17 10:10:00
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Hi,

Yep PCP34 was the one I was talking about.

The good news, as I understood it, for new developments is that OR would put in FTTP as default now, so great news moving forward.
Although I wonder if it means the developer still has to ask for it.
I would have hoped that OR would have done this for years, since they then effectively keep VM out and as there are limited numbers of CP's who offer FTTP then they end up with more BT revenues also.
That's of course just my way of looking at it.

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Standard User witchunt
(member) Sun 29-Jan-17 10:29:26
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Developers have to ask for it otherwise OR won't know about the development or even if they want any openreach network at all.
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(deleted) Sun 29-Jan-17 10:35:46
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My apologies.

I was inferring the posting by -

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 29-Jan-17 11:22:14
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What was your predicted speed when you took out the contract?

In reply to a post by MHC:
At 440m I have a sync of 73Mbps so your is a little low. However, as others have said crosstalk is probably the main reason. There are not many lines in te cable bundle that supplies my house but the effect of cross talk can be very noticeable. One other property causes a 6Mbps loss in speed for me - if they turn their modem off, I can see a significant change..


Bundle? That's not a word used inside the company. Do you mean cable?

100 pair cables usually leave the cabinets, then split off to 50 pair or 20 pair cables as required.

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Standard User MC31
(regular) Sun 29-Jan-17 11:23:00
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Yes in the cab / PCP .Depending on the type of cab but in most you would physically cut down / disconnect the line.In the new tool less cabs you dont have to cut the line down but using the test adaptor does disconnect the line.

these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
Standard User MC31
(regular) Sun 29-Jan-17 11:32:44
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Sounds like he was there to put in a new tie cable ( FTTC to PCP).

We can open the right hand door on a FTTC (it the same tool the opends a cab ) but not the left hand side.In practice the only guys who go in to the RHS would be NS guys putting in tie cables.

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(deleted) Sun 29-Jan-17 13:26:20
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fttp now for developments greater that 30 - assuming registered with Openreach either in (April 2016 - 200+) and November 2016 (30+) assuming a 9 month first occupancy date from Date of Registration

prior to this OR was only able to offer Telephony (standard) or Fibre additional Contract signed) now Fibre is standard (but not copper network provided in these)
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(deleted) Mon 30-Jan-17 06:50:25
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In reply to a post by MC31:
Sounds like he was there to put in a new tie cable ( FTTC to PCP).

We can open the right hand door on a FTTC (it the same tool the opends a cab ) but not the left hand side.In practice the only guys who go in to the RHS would be NS guys putting in tie cables.


I had a look at one once before it had any power to it. Looks like the door is alarmed too. So I'm not sure if risk opening it just to "have a look".
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(deleted) Mon 30-Jan-17 10:06:07
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on the SSE router there is no SNR number given, but there is a Noise Margin..

Thats currently sat 9.6db does that sound right for a FTTC line?

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 30-Jan-17 10:18:14
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SNR is almost always an incorrect label. It should be SNRM, (Signal to Noise Ratio Margin). In short, Noise Margin smile.

Somewhere within a few decimal points of 6dB is normal. A value of 9.6dB is high, and signifies the connection was made at a time of high noise, which has stopped, or that there has been a spell of problems or ongoing ones causing the line to be "banded".

Banding is where the connection speed, (which may be labelled Rate or Actual), is capped, often at a recognisable figure. It's the opposite way round to ADSLx, where the margin is raised to reduce the speed. On FTTC the speed is reduced so the margin rises.

What is your connection speed please? (Not your speed test speed).

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