Hi,

Since you've had the BT 330/30 service for a while (some might even call you a FTTP 'veteran'!) I've got some questions regarding this - I'm getting the Openreach 330/30 FTTPoD service installed in a few months through Fluidata:

1) Are you able to login to the ONT unit via your router to see any kind of connection stats (eg sync rate) on your FTTP service?

2) What speeds do you get in speedtests? I guess something like ~ 300/25 after overheads are taken into account?

3) I guess there's no such thing as DLM on FTTP and you can turn on/off your router a trillion times each day without messing up your connection?

4) I know the Backup Battery Unit (BBU) is primarily there to provide power to your FVA service in case of a power cut but once the OR bod has installed this, can you just bin the BBU and just connect the ONT direct to mains power? Or perhaps you would be breaking OR t&c's by doing this?

5) Finally, how easy was it to move over your copper based tel no over to your FVA line? I'm going to let my FTTC service run alongside my FTTP service for a few months but eventually i plan on ceasing my full LLU copper line and porting the tel no over to the FVA line. With TalkTalk/BT/Openreach/Fluidata involved I can expect a lot of fun & games (ie next to impossible for a LLU copper>FVA tel number migration)

Cheers

Edited by deleted (Tue 21-Feb-17 06:17:22)

No, you can't log in to the ONTE, and if you could there is no 'sync' to be seen. You get whichever service your CP is providing.

My observations re speeds are that the upstream seen on BTw based FTTP services is always a shade over the profile speed i.e. Whereas my 20 meg upstream on FTTC gets me around 18 meg throughput, were it FTTP I'd be seeing a tad over twenty.

In Paul's post he mentions the only problem he has had as been with his equipment, this has been my experience too, any speed related faults I have attended have always been due to internal stuff, wireless or router issues.

Does your chosen FTTP ISP offer an FVA service ? I am of the opinion that FVA isn't available to those using FTTPoD.

Thanks. I'm pretty sure Fluidata said i could have a BTw based voice service running over the FoD service, but I will check with them again as I may have misunderstood them - perhaps they meant they could take over my TalkTalk Business copper line with a voice only service. Anyway a FVA service isn't an absolute must for me right now, I have the option of keeping my copper line active just for voice.

Fair enough.

You asked also about the BBU, it is possible for remote monitoring to detect that the ONTE isn't connected to one ....... Not an actual issue, but maybe if you use a PSU for the router as well it might make you able to continue working during a power outage.

And the phone he seems to need, if he does at some stage get FVA due to policy or FTTPoD capability changes. Or would the phone equipment itself also get power from the BBU, not just the ONT?

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 21-Feb-17 08:33:17)

The BBU just powers the ONTE Bob, end of. So gonna need an 'old fashioned' corded handset to make calls during an outage.

It's purpose is to allow 999 calls to be made at such times, despite most having mobile phones these days, Ofcom still seem insistent that this service is provided.

Or a DECT phone on the UPS you suggested? That was what I meant .

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 21-Feb-17 08:45:51)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I am of the opinion that FVA isn't available to those using FTTPoD.

Sorry I forgot to ask, is this down to technical reasons? If not, then worst case scenario I should be able to have a FVA after the minimum 3 year contract on FoD is complete in which case my service is treated the same as a native FTTP connection. I plan on getting the ONT located next to my existing master phone socket so it would be just be a very short hook-up required between the 2 if/when I am able to order FVA.

Edited by deleted (Tue 21-Feb-17 08:52:39)

I have had my FTTP in for 4 years now and only had 1 bad experience with reliability.
That was when the FTTP card in the exchange went bad which affected all 32 users on it and it took best part of 3 months to get it fixed.
The symptoms were the download speed dropping to 5Mbps, massive packet loss and then speed ramping up over a 24 hour period. The users were spread across different ISPs too.
The time it took to fix was due to was getting Openreach to believe that the issue was at the exchange.
That aside, I've had no other issues with the technology, just the usual ISP ones which you will never escape from (Plusnet in my case)

edit: to clear misunderstanding about ISPs.

Edited by deleted (Tue 21-Feb-17 15:13:10)

In all honesty, I don't know.

I doubt it's technically not possible, more likely a billing type issue, or CP's not wanting to have to give additional training to support staff. This is just based on my (very) limited experience of working on oD.

What does your chosen CP say ?