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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 27-Feb-17 10:39:19
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I know that, maybe I should've said that you have to order the service if/when it comes available. But, I didn't think to because I thought the OP would know that already.
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(staff) Mon 27-Feb-17 10:41:47
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


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The original poster I am sure would have understood, but remember your posts are read by people for weeks and months afterwards and thus can be confusing to some people.

Enough myths and half-truths exist around broadband that jumping on them quickly is needed to avoid people subsequently repeating them as fact.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Feb-17 10:46:20
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


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Enough myths and half-truths exist around broadband that jumping on them quickly is needed to avoid people subsequently repeating them as fact.

Very true. If only there were a reputable website where one might go to seek information and advice ? tongue


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 27-Feb-17 10:48:41
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


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Understood. I was wrong, apologies.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Feb-17 16:34:45
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In reply to a post by Andrew_W:
One is powered by cow dung smile
Oh pull the udder one. That sounds like a really sh%^££%^ idea.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 27-Feb-17 17:11:47
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


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In reply to a post by Andrew_W:
Is there no other way to connect me to the fibres that pass my home


TL;DR: The wrong sort of fibre.

The fibre passing your home is really a distribution fibre, which is a lot of fibres bound together, and destined for a node with splice trays where it can be jointed. Even then, each fibre would be shared by dozens or hundreds of homes, with more hardware necessary to achieve that (as either an FTTC cabinet or splitters and DPs).

BT aren't going to randomly cut into their distribution cable to splice one odd fibre for you ... just as they wouldn't do that with the main 500-1000 pair copper distribution cables either.

In electricity terms, it is like asking for a 240V connection, then wondering why you can't be connected to the 400kV national grid line that goes over your house. There's a lot more hardware needed before it is suitable for an individual home.

In reply to a post by Andrew_W:
Is there not some "box of
tricks" that could be fitted in the fibre close to my home? Any other
technology that could utilise that 2 miles of copper wire more effectively?


Yes, there is a box of tricks: another FTTC cabinet even closer. Or some variant of FTTP would need to be fed to you (but likely from further away than the cables running outside your house).

However, either style of "box of tricks" would cost money to get to you. Who pays that?

To BT (and their BDUK funders), it is a matter of balancing the costs against the outcome. And that box 600m away will do just fine - it will supply you at speeds within the BDUK targets.

If that isn't enough for you, then the onus of funding will fall to you personally.

BT have a product line that allows you to order "FTTP on demand"; the intention is that it would be available to everyone who has FTTC available, but it is currently only available in some locations. And it is expensive.

Someone on here has ordered an FTTP-on-Demand connection as a business connection. To cover installation in the 600-800m band, he's been quoted an installation cost of £3.5k, and a monthly rate of £300pm. All plus VAT.
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4526073-bt-...
Standard User 69bertie
(member) Mon 27-Feb-17 17:19:03
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Re: Help! I live in a rural location


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Is the Fibre route your only means of getting a faster connection? I live 5 miles out of Market Rasen and surprisingly, even though we have a fibre box in the village, several people have gone the Wireless route recently ( Quickline, ABinternet). Have you done any enquiries as to whether wireless might be an option for you?

Onlincolnshire might get around to it eventually but sometimes you need a crystal ball that works to find out when.

Standard User godsell4
(member) Mon 27-Feb-17 17:52:17
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In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:
I am just stating that the FTTC rollout was left too late compared to other countries ...


Once OFCOM and UK.gov, in 2009, allowed BTO to start to build a residential fibre based network.

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Standard User Andrew_W
(knowledge is power) Mon 27-Feb-17 17:58:19
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Wireless is an option but the cost/speed ratio is too high.

OnLincolnshire might get onto it eventually. I initially asked for their help back in July 2015 and when I pressed for some action recently, I was told I am one of 156,000 individuals on their database so 'don't expect miracles' wink

I also pointed out that I might not live long enough to experience "superfast broadband"

(I am 73 wink )

Andrew
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 27-Feb-17 18:56:06
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Depending on your finances and needs you could take another line or two and bond/load balance them together, this will give around two or three times your current speed. But of course the cost will double or triple, unless you can find some decent offers

It also depends on whether line balancing (cheaper) or true line bonding is required (more expensive).

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