Okay let me put this straight to you MCM, I myself am Disabled

Please explain why your being disabled means that BT or VM should provide the infrastructure for you to get a faster internet connection? I can see none. As I have already stated both BT and VM are private commercial companies rather than charities and as such use commercial criteria when determining where they should expand and/or upgrade their networks.

I was one of 75 properties on EO lines in London (SW9, south of the river) getting slower connection speeds than yourself. Like yourself we were frustrated and decided we had to do something. We approached both BT and Hyperoptic, VM not giving a damn despite passing our properties. After two years on and off negotiations with BT we stumped up a little under £19K between us to gap fund improvements. As a result all who want them are now able to get 70+/20 FTTC connections although some have opted for 55/10 and some even 40/2. We had a choice, do nothing and moan or do something and get something we wanted and many needed. We chose to fund raise. Not easy but like yourself we were dissatisfied with our internet connections.

Well said MCM.

The most practical thing you can do immediately is look in to getting a second line as others have suggested. You can either have them set to be line bonded giving you double the speed, or load balanced so as when you use your other programs while uploading the connection wont be maxed out.

I'm not fully familiar with youtube's uploading function but sometimes when uploading or downloading there can be programs that you get set how much of the bandwidth they use. So you could set it as a low priority.. so it'll upload but just take longer.. but least you'll still be able to do things.

As for getting superfast broadband, well I can understand the feeling of being left behind in these mattters. But as others have pointed out the ISP's, BT/OR, VM are private companies.. money talks and they won't do things for nothing. So the best you can do is contact your local councillar and get them to push it up the agenda. This might involve some community level action. If there is enough demand in an area then all the companies will branch out and try and cover the area. thats capitalism!

In reply to a post by FastInternetPlz:

9Mbps Download and 0.9 Upload its virtually borderline in this day and age, because file sizes are not small and it takes me forever to Upload a Video to my channel.

Please can I have your 9mb ADSL line?
You can have my FTTC line, it's a rock solid 4mb

I have been following this forum for about two years now. This is not the first, nor probably the last occasion, where someone complains about lack of fibre infrastructure, and you respond somewhat aggressively "what are you going to do? State should not pay for it as in my opinion their priorities should be elsewhere. We ran a community project. You should do so as well and stop complaining".

There are a couple of aspects here.

People who complain here are usually new to this forum. They may not be aware of related technology, nor the challenges that are involved in providing a faster broadband to their homes. They also may not be aware of possibilities.

We reading the forum do not know anything about an individual case. There are no "one size fits all" -solutions. A community project is an excellent way of solving this if there is a community that can chip in. There are many reasons, though, why a community project is not a viable solution. Someone might not have the financial means of contributing anything. I have never found it too helpful to ask the poor to solve their problems by just not being so poor. Others might live in areas where a community does not exist. An isolated house might not have enough neighbours to support a FTTC cabinet. In urban areas, there are buildings that are alone with the problem as their neighbours have either FTTC, Virgin or a niche fibre provider, which means there would not be a community of 75 homes anywhere nearby. There can also be many short and medium term tenants (0-2 years) around who would not be interested in funding a solution that would cost them money but provide the benefit only after they have moved away. We can also encounter people who have physical, mental or other limitations to be the wandering community project champions in their neighbourhood. We just don't know.

I do not think this forum should convey repeatedly a message that only original poster's laziness and parsimony are in the way of a better internet service. This in most cases is off the mark, and usually a heated and utterly pointless discussion follows.

There is also no reason, why "state should spend money to upgrade our infrastructure" is a less valid statement than "state should spend money on better healthcare". This is just a matter of personal opinion, political viewpoint or something in between, which sort of means the request does not become invalid just because we want to fund NHS instead. In many, many countries state actually does invest in communications infrastructure, and it does so in this country as well. The question of how much and where to spend, is very much a question to politicians.

Which leads me to the suggestion I would like to make.

Your experience in running a community project is invaluable, as not many others frequenting this forum have done so successfully. For anybody considering this route, the practical information and hands on experience is useful. Many are probably completely unaware of this possibility and the fact that it does not cost that much if there is a community of a moderate size. Others have successfully influenced local politicians. Even the government seems to be sort of listening now. I may have found a way to get Hyperoptic to our building that would be far too small for them, and can share if this goes nicely.

Should we collect a sticky FAQ of some kind, to gather all success and failure stories together? This could be the starting point for newbies who come here to look for information instead of hot air? People on this forum seem to be immensely knowledgeable, but this particular topic seems to generate mostly useless noise.

Finally let me apologise for this finger pointing. It is not your fault or anyone else's. If we had a FAQ, we could assume posters complaining about this would have read it. We could in the FAQ include a "please share with us this information about your situation and neighbourhood" -section to help us consider what would be the viable paths to follow in that particular case.

Just my thought.

H

Edited by deleted (Thu 23-Mar-17 10:54:06)

In reply to a post by burble:

In reply to a post by FastInternetPlz:

9Mbps Download and 0.9 Upload its virtually borderline in this day and age, because file sizes are not small and it takes me forever to Upload a Video to my channel.

Please can I have your 9mb ADSL line?
You can have my FTTC line, it's a rock solid 4mb

I was about to post the same thing, but you trumped me as I have a scorchingly fast connection at 5Mb/s.

My sister is lucky to reach 1Mb/s.

Should we collect a sticky FAQ of some kind,

I posted quite extensive details here at the time as to what was involved in our community funded project and our experiences. My post lasted barely two months before it disappeared/expired/was removed.

In reply to a post by MCM:

Should we collect a sticky FAQ of some kind,

I posted quite extensive details here at the time as to what was involved in our community funded project and our experiences. My post lasted barely two months before it disappeared/expired/was removed.

Can someone perform a Lazarus on this?
I would be most interested to discover a practical plan for my area, even though there is absolutely no community spirit where I live, self interest may rule supreme.

In reply to a post by MCM:

My post lasted barely two months before it disappeared/expired/was removed.

Can you remember the Subject?

I found this post which seems to be an early resume of what you were considering.

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4252807-eo-...