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No need for Openreach FTTP to go via an exchange, the handover to the backhaul could be done in a bigger cabinet in the street if they wanted, but when you already have exchange buildings with backup power and customers with their own backhaul to the exchange buildings it makes sense to do this.

One would hope that their new full FTTP area's, or in fact any new areas would be built with much more capacity than the existing area's have. I remember reading that they are updating and improving the back haul to existing areas, but of course it's a slow process and it's not going to happen everywhere.

I'm just glad we're getting the full FTTP flavour of VM, it's got to be better than the COAX version. I may not even move to VM, but it will be great to have the choice, and if others do it may well mean less cross talk for some FTTC users. It may also mean that OR roll out G.Fast here earlier than they would have otherwise done.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Some of the expansion, particularly in areas with no existing virgin media footprint is FTTP ie. glass into the home

Well the areas around me (but not in my road or side roads) were part of project lightning the year before last, I was also told it was part of project lightning over the phone by their planning team, but saying that, they also said we was to also get it, but that was a blatant lie, so maybe.

All I know is there was no VM anywhere near us, and the year before last (i.e. project lightning) I saw about +20 cabs being installed, and according to people I know that got VM (well a 6th of their paid speed) only have a coax and another cable, none are fibre cables.

Paul

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

One would hope that their new full FTTP area's, or in fact any new areas would be built with much more capacity than the existing area's have. I remember reading that they are updating and improving the back haul to existing areas, but of course it's a slow process and it's not going to happen everywhere.

I'm just glad we're getting the full FTTP flavour of VM, it's got to be better than the COAX version. I may not even move to VM, but it will be great to have the choice, and if others do it may well mean less cross talk for some FTTC users. It may also mean that OR roll out G.Fast here earlier than they would have otherwise done.

Well everyone near me that have VM are not happy at all, a few have gone back to ADSL for their 12Mbps due to it was more reliable than their VM they had, and the VM in their entire area was installed 2014 - 2015 which was part of project lightning, sadly due to no fibre via BT the area as whole took VM, sadly too many got it hence the slow speeds.

So if you do get FTTH with VM, lets hope its not congested.

Let us all know how it goes to-do with the installing, I find all this very interesting

Paul

I'm well aware large areas of VM have congestion, and only time will tell how things pan out around here, one can only hope they don't penny pinch too much and build in enough capacity to cope with expanding needs.

You certainly don't seem to have any issues with speed, so I'm a bit bemused that you say the area has no BT fibre

Protect Lightning will eventually cover 4 Million new properties, with half of them being full FTTP. Seems your area was unlucky and early in the rollout. Initially they were aiming for 25% FTTP but most being built now are pure fibre and will take the target to 50%

Note my choice of words, none guarantee that it will be FTTP but am seeing enough areas to support my statement.

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

I'm well aware large areas of VM have congestion, and only time will tell how things pan out around here, one can only hope they don't penny pinch too much and build in enough capacity to cope with expanding needs.

You certainly don't seem to have any issues with speed, so I'm a bit bemused that you say the area has no BT fibre

I was lucky, it took me 5 years even though the hardware was already in place, the bottom of my road and side roads cannot get fibre, and the areas with VM still cannot get BT Fibre.

I did ask BT about those other areas (which was originally for FTTP) and they told me they will be getting FTTC and that they are just looking into what hardware is currently in place.

My actual area cannot get VM due to being a conservation area, I was referring to areas near me, i.e. several roads away.

Paul

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Note my choice of words, none guarantee that it will be FTTP but am seeing enough areas to support my statement.

I am not saying you are wrong, I just said those that all got VM a year or two ago as part of Project Lightning never got FTTH and where other people was saying its FTTH / FTTP, when it "might" not be, that's what I was trying to say.

They did get as close as the over side of the main road from us LOL.

But yeah, nothing is guaranteed.

Paul