That's great news.

Hopefully we will get some movement on Cabinet 28 now as well.

Thanks.

Any news on Cabinet 28 (redrow site off Church road?) I cant believe this entire new build estate is not FTTC while it is in the surrounding streets.

Will likely be covered under infill for the Welsh BDUK project, new builds are usually left out of the first phases of deployment as the estates are normally not yet built or even occupied.

Email Openreach on the nga email to see if cab 28 will be in the commercial rollout or covered by the Welsh project, can email them as well.

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Edited by deleted (Tue 24-Sep-13 20:56:13)

Hi ccxo.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I contacted (Superfast-cymru programme ) which is the BDUK and they said my postcode CH7-3xx (old brickworks area, Buckley) isnt under the initiative at this time, so my only option is OpenReach.

I contacted via NGA and they replied saying

Our deployment is based on the commercial criteria for each cabinet and your cabinet fails to meet the commercial criteria. This is because the cabinet has too few premises connected to it, rendering it too small to provide a return on the investment based on the costs for the construction and on-going running costs of providing a new FTTC cabinet.

I have email back asking them to re-consider because I believe they came to this conclusion when the cabinet was installed (during the build of the Redrow estate). Now its 100% occupied (280+ houses) of 3/4 bed families who im sure are all willing to pay for better broadband. It looks like if they don't re-consider we wont be getting it anytime soon, even though all the surrounding area of Buckley is covered (all surrounding street cabs are fttc) - doesnt make sense :/

Edited by deleted (Wed 09-Oct-13 14:19:43)

Well.

I finally got a response from NGA:

Cabinet 28 does not serve the number of premise that you estimate, current working circuits are at a number considerably less than a third of your estimate, which means that the cabinet is still not commercially viable.

So I guess either there is another CAB I don't know about or 1/2 our estate doesn't have an active phone line!? I will have to ask the site manager above the active connections. Still quite disappointed though :/

I see that almost 4 years later, FTTC is still not available.
I am in the same situation in Red Row Archers Park in Kent. ME10 5BN
Both Openreach and the BDUK website just say there is no plan to upgrade this cabinet, period.

After spending many hours researching why, writing to Red Row, Openreach, the local council and to my local MP (Red Row didn't even bother to respond!), I finally understand what the situation is.
When a development is built requiring a new cabinet, the developer needs to engage with Openreach to have the cabinet installed, and the developer must fund the installation. The developer chooses which type of cabinet to order from Openreach, and must pay the difference if they want fibre.
The Universal Service Obligation requires that the developer provide a telephone line to the new homes. but only copper, unfortunately there is no obligation to provision any sort of high speed internet.

And the BDUK program, in which the government funded the FTTC upgrade for most cabinets in the UK does not cover new build homes.
The point of the BDUK is to upgrade cabinets that could not have had FTTC installed at the time of build because the technology did not exist. Point being that the BDUK will never fund the upgrade of a cabinet in a new build development because they expect the developer to order a FTTC cabinet at the time of build. Which is far less expensive than to retrospectively upgrade it at a later date.

So what it means is that the only hope of getting FTTC in a new build development is if the developer decides to pay a few extra pounds for the greater good of their customers. Something Red Row seemingly never chooses to do....

My advice is to stay clear of Red Row.
Im sure most other developers would do the right thing.