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(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:18:23
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[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
According to the initial BT/OR estimate my property is located in Band D, which is 600-800m away from the nearest fibre aggregation node (as the crow flies) but obviously this will only be confirmed after the site survey.

No idea if there's already a splitter node in place, I imagine the aggregation node would be somewhere along this road:
https://goo.gl/rTK1x9

I'm guessing they will try to use existing underground ducts to lay the fibre where possible but Fluidata told me a common problem they came across on previous FoD orders was blocked u/g ducts which took a while to clear frown

Btw what is the cabling distance from the point where the fibre enters your building to your ONT? In my case that will be ~5m and it should follow the skirting boards and around 1 door which will mean 90 degrees bends are required, however I read somewhere that internal fibre cabling cannot be installed at angles of 90 degrees or less....

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(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:28:05
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[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
What makes you think it's congestion in the BT network?

On the standard 330/30, BT Wholesale plan their network to provide a minimum throughput of 40Mbit/s. With the elevated 330/30, it's increased to 70Mbit/s. That doesn't mean that they expect speeds to drop that low, it's just how they plan/build their network.
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(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:33:27
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
1) Are you able to login to the ONT unit via your router to see any kind of connection stats (eg sync rate) on your FTTP service?


I assume it's possible, I just don't think there are enough people to have tried to see how locked down the ONT is. If you're on a Huawei headend, it's an EchoLife HG8240.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
5) Finally, how easy was it to move over your copper based tel no over to your FVA line? I'm going to let my FTTC service run alongside my FTTP service for a few months but eventually i plan on ceasing my full LLU copper line and porting the tel no over to the FVA line. With TalkTalk/BT/Openreach/Fluidata involved I can expect a lot of fun & games (ie next to impossible for a LLU copper>FVA tel number migration)


FoD does not support FVA - no ISP can place an order for this.

There is nothing stopping you using your own VoIP solution though.


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(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:35:52
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When you say "elevated 330/30", do you mean a business grade 330/30 FTTP (or FoD) service?

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:43:09
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[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
Btw what is the cabling distance from the point where the fibre enters your building to your ONT? In my case that will be ~5m and it should follow the skirting boards and around 1 door which will mean 90 degrees bends are required, however I read somewhere that internal fibre cabling cannot be installed at angles of 90 degrees or less....

The maximum length, at present, for the CSP to ONTE kits is 30m, and as for the bends, it will, but I always try to keep them as gentle as possible as clearly they add to the overall loss. Oh, and ask the installer to use cleats on this, staples are quicker, but I have seen several faults caused by them.

Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Feb-17 08:44:19
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In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:
What makes you think it's congestion in the BT network?

On the standard 330/30, BT Wholesale plan their network to provide a minimum throughput of 40Mbit/s. With the elevated 330/30, it's increased to 70Mbit/s. That doesn't mean that they expect speeds to drop that low, it's just how they plan/build their network.

I am only going by what BT told me when I questioned the speed drop down to 47Mbps at peak time.
Or was the wording contention, I forget now.

As for the minimum of 40Mbps I was not told of any minimum speeds neither was I told an up to speed when I ordered it over the phone.

When I ordered I told the ordering team that I would like to upgrade from ADSL2+ to Infinity 4, they did some checks and asked if I wanted the phone line also moved over also to fibre and I said yes.

They then said, ok, so that's Infinity 4 "300Mbps", moving the line and the Smart Hub, and then gave the engineer dates, he never mentioned any up to or minimal speeds to me on the phone.

That was why it was a shock when I first saw it, its not really an issue due to its only dropped down to 47Mbps twice since we have had it.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 - 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up)
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(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 09:52:51
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BT Wholesale provide an 'elevated' downstream throughput option (usually around £10 a month) which gives traffic a higher prioritisation over the SVLAN (between the BRAS and ISP handover point).

I have no idea whether this is value for money or not.
Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 03-May-17 23:17:46
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Have had FVA for nearly 5 years in June

It's been in EMD for at least 3 years of that time

Time really it becomes a full retail product

More than happy with the service however

BT Infinity Option 3 200Mb
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