Yes bud.

Plenty of overseas operators doing the same and am sure others in the UK too.

Openreach would hit problems if they did the same due to the PIA rules

Ducts, I should have said ducts, not trenches. Green plastic ducts about 4" in diameter. Underriver project in Kent

Edited by Michael_Chare (Mon 08-May-17 21:20:48)

Thought so... the earlier post should have read ' little pits' ...

Their service can't come soon enough for some of the telephonic abysses on those mean streets .

So...

Hub arrived this week (original internal visit was due on the 11th).

Get home yesterday to find a card through the door to the effect that they'd been to connect the fibre but couldn't find the fibre outside. Neighbour (also in same position) was home and told them that OR had yet to dig up the field so the engineer had nothing to connect.

Engineer replied that OR "don't tell them anything".

I had thought of cancelling the visit before this week but from past experience that ends up cancelling the order in entirety.


Perhaps the "change a light bulb" joke should be changed to the modern equivalent of "installing fibre"

The last we knew, you and the neighbour were thinking of doing the digging and duct laying yourselves, and asking for advice.

Did Openreach change their mind and decide to do it then?

Whisper it quietly but yes.

According to our neighbour (the land owner), the surveyor came out again, had a mooch around with one of those measuring wheels and said they'd do it.

It's been passed to the dig team, fingers crossed they'll be coming on the 25th.

And for that I am truly grateful. Just feel somewhat embarrassed at taking up the resources and also delaying others' internal installations due to engineers turning up here with nothing to connect.

Nothing to be embarrassed about. All completely out of your control and simple poor project management.

In reply to a post by gerarda:

In reply to a post by fiddler:

So it appears that,

a) Openreach (or BT before them) do not keep records or plans as to how properties are served by them

a) They do but the records are prone to errors which Openreach compound by refusing to accept they are wrong.

On this specific subject, I've seen records from around where I live which BT/OR (it was about three years ago) considered "current", but cannot be from any later than about 1995/6, and from some indications, much earlier. It was on a friend's work (i.e. BT) laptop; he was a precision testing (or fault testing?) engineer then. They were clearly scans of printed paper schematics. The road I live in and about 4 other roads surrounding it weren't on there, as they were all built in 1999/2000. He didn't deliberately access old records or anything... not that there would be any reason for those to be easily accessible, anyway. It was doubly surprising because althout I said it was something like 3 years ago, my estate (and older, surrounding ones) already had FTTC activated via an ECI DSLAM; it went live in 2012. Now, the PCP has an extension pod (not G.fast) and a 288 Huawei box on the other side of it (I think I posted photos a while ago as it seemed like an odd arrangement). Anyway, I hope their records have now been updated and those old scans of 80s/90s bits of paper are consigned to the archives.

Edited by deleted (Wed 17-May-17 21:31:09)

We have far far newer records on the works laptop , GeoHUB is very good and very much upto date.A PTO should know about it. Sounds like your mate has shown you schem plans off Network Records and they are scans of the old paper cable prints.Ask any real jointer and he will tell that real paper prints are often the best to use when full size, not so good on a laptop.

Edited by MC31 (Thu 18-May-17 19:56:02)