In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Btw after vat, its £360 a month for 3 years...but after 3 years you can migrate to a cheap as chips native FTTP service from BT (if you wished). If you live in SW England/S Wales then Spectrum Internet can also offer you FTTPoD provided they have LLU'd your exchange. Their prices are around the £250 pm mark + installation of course.

Don't live in the south west but I can reclaim the VAT... Talking with my current ISP recently about something and they said they didn't advertise FTTPoD as its so expensive. I took that to mean they'd sell it to me if I really really insisted. So maybe there are more suppliers than first meets the eye.

Prior to placing the order with Fluidone, I tried all all the usual suspects BT Biz, AAISP, Zen, IDnet, Pulse8 et al and none of them currently sell FTTPoD. Even the more specialist providers such as Gradwell have stopped selling it. An ISP will only sell it to you if they have it in their ordering systems...I'm pretty sure no ISP will sell it due to a customers "insistence" (akin to haggling in a Bangkok flea market) - but I am happy to be proved wrong

Edited by deleted (Tue 25-Jul-17 09:52:04)

NOTE: Three year contracts are banned for consumers and SME by Ofcom, so a common way around that is to charge 3 years of costs in a 2 year contract.

As for pricing my £200 figure, is just a ball park and not a firm figure, the numbers taking FTTPoD is so small that it may not have a standard list price anyway. Certainly the install fee is very variable.

For Fluidone it looks like the standard installation fee is £3,595 (includes Juniper CPE and FTTPoD Connection Charge) and then £310/month. That's what goes on the order form before the Openreach survey gets completed.

I've just signed up, now waiting (semi-patiently) for my Ag node to become available so the order can actually get processed by Openreach.

Is that inclusive of VAT?

Just had a look at the order, it doesn't actually say but it's company to company so I'd guess it's probably ex-VAT.

In reply to a post by raesene:

For Fluidone it looks like the standard installation fee is £3,595 (includes Juniper CPE and FTTPoD Connection Charge) and then £310/month.

When you say "standard installation fee" have Fluidone/Openreach done away with band pricing (based on dist to ag node) and just introduced a flat installation charge of £3595, subject to survey? Does it mention band classification (A to H) on your quotation?

Though it appears they have put up the monthly service charges by a tenner (i'm paying 300 notes pm)

Edited by deleted (Tue 25-Jul-17 13:05:48)

In reply to a post by raesene:

Just had a look at the order, it doesn't actually say but it's company to company so I'd guess it's probably ex-VAT.

It will definitely be ex-vat based on my dealings with them

well that's what they've gone with on my order, it could be just 'cause we're trying to move things along as much as possible whilst waiting for Openreach to sort the Ag node. It was looking promising about a month back but seems to have run into some more problems.

I'll be interested to see what the installation costs end up coming out as, as the cabling will almost all be over poles (we don't have much in the way of ducting out this way)...

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Your best bet is probably to ask an OR Engineer working at/near your FTTC cabinet where the nearest agg node is.

It needs to teh the most appropriate/accessible. I have friends with a 3Mbps VDSL circuit and the nearest aggregation node for them is around 800m away, however if they went down the FTTPoD route they would be connected t one that is over 2km distant with all the extra charges.

In reply to a post by MHC:

I have friends with a 3Mbps VDSL circuit and the nearest aggregation node for them is around 800m away, however if they went down the FTTPoD route they would be connected t one that is over 2km distant with all the extra charges.

Openreach are NOT allowed to connected to other 2km so they will gained extra charge (that's fraud) if his nearer aggregation node is only 800m away. I can sense that Openreach will rip off everyones of secret aggregation node is 2km away where their genuine nearer aggregation node is below 800m.

It's all about MONEY that Openreach are after it.

I think Openreach engineer should take the customer to show him where the aggregation node are to proof is it 800m away or 2km hard to tell?

Edited by adslmax (Wed 26-Jul-17 12:31:14)