I doubt they would be able to unbundle an exchange unless they have a large number customers on the exchange.

I think they are using BT Wholesale for the backhaul as their checker is using the BTw XML.

I just cannot put any faith into what this company has on its website. They are offering two speed variants of FTTP which don't even go live with Openreach until next week and then with BT Wholesale they will be in a test phase.

The fact that all their prices for FTTP/G.fast are quoted as wire's only is even more suspicious. 330/50 will cost them £55.00 a month alone rental from BTw and they charge the end user £80.00? £25 a month to cover all the backhaul and overheads of a 330/50 line? Good luck.

There isn't actually a massive price difference between TT's backhaul and BTw. If you look on YouTube, there is a "discussion" between Adrian Kennard and Neil McRae at one of the ISP conferences.

I believe there is more contract flexibility from TalkTalk which is one reason why smaller ISPs are preferring to use them over BT Wholesale.

The reason the cost is high is really down to the investment to build the backhaul I suspect. It cost over £1bn so I guess it's a matter of gaining a return on that investment.

No jealously, just pointing out some flaws in this company's pricing.

I've had FTTP for over 5 years.

I think we have to see what happens. Thanks for making the jump Snake, I'm looking forward to your updates.

I do hope u can proved everyone wrong including myself but I think Cerberus is a lying company who can't be trusted. Glad I didn't go ahead and order FTTPoD from Cerberus because I have very suspicious in them.

A company can have teething problems with a new product, marketing, sales not aligned with messaging is nothing new.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

I believe there is more contract flexibility from TalkTalk which is one reason why smaller ISPs are preferring to use them over BT Wholesale.

In some areas yes, in others no and where not, their terms can be far worse.

Matt

Payment made via Credit card for installation - So that's not an issue.
Direct Debit setup for rental - This will start once service is online.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

There isn't actually a massive price difference between TT's backhaul and BTw. If you look on YouTube, there is a "discussion" between Adrian Kennard and Neil McRae at one of the ISP conferences.

Thanks, I think its this youtube video in which Adrian Kennard from AAISP compares BT wholesale v TT wholesale networks and you're right, they're very similar both technically and from a pricing angle. He has a discussion with BT's Neil McRae in the Q&A session right at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHDA47T_8g

Do you get the same level of credit card protection for a business purchase as for a consumer purchase? I understand the FTTPoD would only be sold to businesses due to Ofcom rules around contract lengths so also would assume that it would be contract law that would be applicable rather than consumer protection?