Depends whether they activated the ONTE on the system successfully last time.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

NOTE: The Fibre ONT has Ethernet output to your broadband router, so might want to consider a neat place for the fibre modem (ONT) with some power, and then you are free to run Ethernet to where ever you like in the home i.e. best location for the wireless signal.

Or given it's single mode fibre and an extra 100m is nothing, a simplex SC-SC coupler and whatever length of simplex single mode fibre with SC connectors at both ends. An SC-SC simplex coupler is like 21p at fs.com and a 30m simplex single mode cable with SC connectors is £3.20. I would be disappearing the Openreach provided fibre inside a small box and run my own fibre to where I wanted the ONT.

I remain astounded that Openreach and it would appear KCom too (saw an installation at my uncles a couple weeks back) just bring the fibre direct into the home and bung an SC connector on the end. I would not do that in a data centre let alone in a home.

Now while fibre is a lot more robust than some people make out it is more delicate than copper and your telephone line does not run directly to a plug which you stick in the back of the phone.

copper and your telephone line does not run directly to a plug which you stick in the back of the phone.

It used to. And the main reason they changed it was to set a demarcation point between customer equipment and their equipment. With fibre the demarcation is the ONT at which point it is turned into copper.

In reply to a post by ian72:

copper and your telephone line does not run directly to a plug which you stick in the back of the phone.

It used to. And the main reason they changed it was to set a demarcation point between customer equipment and their equipment. With fibre the demarcation is the ONT at which point it is turned into copper.

I remember some of those old phone connections shown >> here << it was in one of the homes I lived in growing up.

Paul

Same techniques as other countries that have we are told deployed millions more premises like this

We had a party line with the farm house down the road and the wires were connected in a jointing box like the one in your picture. The phone was rented from the Post Office. This later changed when my parents bought their own phone and the socket was changed to a phone socket that the end user could actually plug the phone into.

In reply to a post by ian72:

copper and your telephone line does not run directly to a plug which you stick in the back of the phone.

It used to. And the main reason they changed it was to set a demarcation point between customer equipment and their equipment. With fibre the demarcation is the ONT at which point it is turned into copper.

No there was always a joint in the copper cable, and not one that involved someone getting a soldering iron out which would be the equivalent of spicing.

I can tell you now if I ever get a FTTP connection a small box will be going on the wall a coupler and a simplex patch lead will then route the fibre to where I want it, in conduit, buried in the wall as necessary. I would probably sink a 47mm double gang back box and put a blanking plate over it. I would also probably have it all in place before the engineer arrived

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

In reply to a post by ian72:

copper and your telephone line does not run directly to a plug which you stick in the back of the phone.

It used to. And the main reason they changed it was to set a demarcation point between customer equipment and their equipment. With fibre the demarcation is the ONT at which point it is turned into copper.

No there was always a joint in the copper cable, and not one that involved someone getting a soldering iron out which would be the equivalent of spicing.

I can tell you now if I ever get a FTTP connection a small box will be going on the wall a coupler and a simplex patch lead will then route the fibre to where I want it, in conduit, buried in the wall as necessary. I would probably sink a 47mm double gang back box and put a blanking plate over it. I would also probably have it all in place before the engineer arrived

I wouldn't be surprised if BTOR moans due to they own the fibre going into the home up to the ONT, just like BTOR owns the copper line up to the NTE5x master socket.

And if you have any issues after you attach anything between their fibre cable and the ONT, I wouldn't be surprised if you get charged.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

And if you have any issues after you attach anything between their fibre cable and the ONT, I wouldn't be surprised if you get charged.

Or I could just unplug my extension cable from the coupler and move the ONT to be plugged directly into it. A bit like using the test socket on an NTE5. Making the demarcation point the ONT is as dumb as not having a coupler in fibre run at fixed point so that activity in the house can require recabling from outside the house.

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

And if you have any issues after you attach anything between their fibre cable and the ONT, I wouldn't be surprised if you get charged.

Or I could just unplug my extension cable from the coupler and move the ONT to be plugged directly into it. A bit like using the test socket on an NTE5. Making the demarcation point the ONT is as dumb as not having a coupler in fibre run at fixed point so that activity in the house can require recabling from outside the house.

The way I see it, BTOR own everything up to the ONT which is why you are not allowed to change anything before that point, apart from the batteries in the BBU if you have one.

Also its not the same as removing the faceplates and using the test socket, doing that you are not touching BTOR's wiring, when you use a fibre coupler on the fibre cable going into the ONT you are altering their wiring, so no its not the same thing.

What you are suggesting to do would be the same thing as re-locating the Master Socket and adding extra cable between the BT80 box and the Master Socket.


If the ONT isn't installed where you like it, you should of told them where you wanted it to be installed where the external engineer(s) arrived.

They are happy to install it where you want it, within reason that is.

I did exactly that when mine was installed.
The engineer(s) arrived to do the external work and I asked if it could be installed where I wanted it and explained why I wanted it there and they was happy to install it there.

The next day another engineer arrived to do the internal work and saw where the CSP was installed and knew where about the internal hardware needed to be installed, I re-explained where I wanted it and why, he was very happy to install it there.

Job done.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Thu 05-Oct-17 21:44:05)