Understood, but the idea is to get the copper line and ADSL service installed at another address, then apply for a 'house move', as per this post.

EDIT:
PS - provided the posters FTTP is BTOR based of course!

Edited by Rastus (Fri 13-Oct-17 19:05:00)

big clue is if there is a battery back up unit next to the fibre ONT

Or maybe not, they get fitted on almost all installs ... and the new ONTE's with a built in BBU are nearly upon us too.

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They also don't require you to retain a copper line so there's another saving (but they charge a perfectly reasonable (IMO) £2.50 p/m surcharge if you don't have a landline with them), so there's a big saving on line rental.

Maybe I misread/misunderstood + have snipped, but that reads like fttp without a copper line will save you paying line rental.
Unless this method is different being a trial, the data only FTTP product from openerach price lists is approx. £100 + VAT more than the price of with a line.
If no copper is available, FVA + DATA is not much more than as DATA alone, though it seems to be more than DATA + copper rental.
It's possible I am mis-reading the OR docs!

Yes it's probably because PN FTTP is classed as a trial that it's possible to not have a copper line and only pay the prices I quoted. They charge the same prices as their similar speed offerings on FTTC.

Also, PN do not offer a FVA service on their FTTP trial, but if a potential punter in an 'FTTP only' area wants a 'telephone line' there are plenty of VoIP services out there.

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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Specifics are the key here...

' 'blindly' order a 'fibre' service from any ISP' this will only work if the provider is retailing the GEA-FTTP service.

Even if you order from BT Consumer the price should be in the
£26.99 to £31.99 for the entry level Infinity 1 product (up to 52 Mbps)
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/isps/bt/packages/unli...
Package due to update this morning, but offers vary usually within that range and claiming reward softens it.

After 12 months the price jumps but trick is to migrate to someone like https://www.thinkbroadband.com/isps/zen/packages/fib... at £43.99/m or negotiate a rate reduction in return for another fixed term with BT. Plus in 12 months time it is likely more people will be retailing the FTTP version so might be more choice.

Thanks Andrew,

He will certainly want 'unlimited', and being a 'young person' doesn't need to worry about the voice side of things ! He had budgeted on 20-25 quid/m for broadband, so going 5-10 quid over won't be too much of a disaster, we'll help him with that. Yes, good point, 12-18 months on there should be more FTTP ISP choice to use a stick with BT, or migrate to.

Well, finally our lad exchanged contracts on Black Friday, and signed up of a FTTP service from BT on a Black Friday deal the following day.

He got the keys this weekend, and the activation was booked for today.

During sign up BT were reluctant to allow an 'Engineer Install' without payment, however
later in the process there was a question about the ONT box. 'Was it working, or was it damaged, or were
we uncertain ?. We clicked on 'Uncertain', and magically it turned into an FOC engineer install.

Good job too. The PON light has been lit for about a fortnight. I'd tried my own router on Port 1 with the generic BT log on. No connection. The supplied BT Hub was the same. The BT man arrived today, took one look at all the lights, and came to the same conclusion as me (thankfully) that it was an authentication problem.
He phoned whatever portal BT engineers phone, and after 15 mins on hold, spoke to someone. Read out
the ONT's serial number to them, and after a couple of mins all burst into life. (Except the phone line, that took another 6 hours, but hey !)

Anyway, glad we did opt for an engineer install, it would have been a nightmare trying to persuade CS that it wasn't a hard fault, and would have meant another day waiting in.

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Well, finally our lad exchanged contracts on Black Friday, and signed up of a FTTP service from BT on a Black Friday deal the following day. ..........

He phoned whatever portal BT engineers phone, and after 15 mins on hold, spoke to someone. Read out
the ONT's serial number to them, and after a couple of mins all burst into life. (Except the phone line, that took another 6 hours, but hey !) ....

I presume from your post that BT Retail insist your son has a "phone line" as part of his FTTP service? - Much like PaulKirby suggested.

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In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

Well, finally our lad exchanged contracts on Black Friday, and signed up of a FTTP service from BT on a Black Friday deal the following day. ..........

He phoned whatever portal BT engineers phone, and after 15 mins on hold, spoke to someone. Read out
the ONT's serial number to them, and after a couple of mins all burst into life. (Except the phone line, that took another 6 hours, but hey !) ....

I presume from your post that BT Retail insist your son has a "phone line" as part of his FTTP service? - Much like PaulKirby suggested.

Yes, there seemed no way to avoid it on sign up. I dragged an old 5 quid at Argos phone out of my junk box, and it's plugged into the port on the ONT, which is housed inside a cupboard. I switched the ringer off, so he's not ever troubled by any PPI or ' This is Microsoft' calls !.

I think you may have misunderstood a little.

Their insistence that you rent an FVA service from them does not mean you have to a phone plugged in to the line.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I think you may have misunderstood a little.

Their insistence that you rent an FVA service from them does not mean you have to a phone plugged in to the line.

Oh, there's no misunderstanding, I realise that, I've just plugged a phone in for him, in case he ever swallows his mobile (or similar disaster), and has to phone 999 !