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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 11-Oct-17 23:12:20
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Re: Banding removed!


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I dont know about removal, but the 2 instances where I have been banded were caused by the same thing.

Basically these 2 steps

1 - line syncs higher than normal due to event like power cut.
2 - line has a period of instability that triggers DLM "whilst" its synced with the low margin.

The code in place seems designed to band a line if that happens instead of interleaving.

The first banding I kept for over a year, but it was removed when openreach did a full line reset, the second banding I still have in place now probably for about 5-6 months now I think. My current attinable is 20mbit over the banding, so that seems to have no affect on its removal.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 12-Oct-17 02:25:30
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Re: Banding removed!


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
Inadvertently low SNRM is a common affliction in VDSL2, whether sudden (as you describe) or gradual (slowly adding subscribers).

I now believe that DLM's first intervention step should be just a resync. No change to interleaving or retransmission. Certainly no banding. Just a resync.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 16-Oct-17 03:04:54
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Re: Banding removed!


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funny enough banding got removed on my line a few days back, more info on my kitz post.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 16-Oct-17 03:09:13
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Re: Banding removed!


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The problem with what you said is it doesnt prevent the line syncing too high again on the next power cut, whilst banding does. I think banding has been designed to avoid these type of situations.

I would be ok with just a resync, but I guess openreach are not, as it seems they dont like the idea of lines syncing above their normal rate because of power cuts.

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Standard User simon194
(experienced) Mon 16-Oct-17 07:56:17
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Re: Banding removed!


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
I have to agree about banding used to avoid lines syncing too high. My line is banded as 14999 which after a power cut it will sync at that speed with a 4.8dB SNRM then after a few days it will resync at it's usual 12-14 Mbps.
Standard User kasg
(knowledge is power) Thu 09-Nov-17 15:57:15
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Might as well post on this thread as it continues my improving sync speeds - there was a 5 minute power cut earlier this afternoon covering a wide area and when the power came back, the modem synced at 79999/20000! That has never happened before and is pretty good for 450m odd. It's holding up so far but the downstream SNR margin is only 0.8dB, so it's probably precarious. I haven't dared update the signature yet! IP profile is 74.1, 92.6%.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 09-Nov-17 16:08:04
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That sounds like you were one of the first to reconnect. But as you say, there is clearly no banding in operation.

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