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(deleted) Tue 28-Nov-17 12:38:43
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FTTP Install Costs (ECCs)


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I recently tried to order FTTP (not FTTP on demand) for a site in Wales.

The BTW checker says:

https://gyazo.com/c34058f00847c31afdebc2389814da7e

The order ended up getting surveyed at least twice and we've had a price back from KCOM:

Survey * 1 = 245.14
1*8ml Pole=394.89
260m Duct Soft=7485.40
2*JMF4=1602.72
Total Cost: £9728.15
Build Days = 72

Ouch.

What I didn't know is that OR only cover ECCs of up to £1000 for FTTP - is that correct?

KCOM also have a policy that they automatically cancel any orders which would have ECCs over £1k without even giving the EU the choice to pay the difference.
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(staff) Tue 28-Nov-17 13:28:01
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Re: FTTP Install Costs (ECCs)


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If really 260m from your drop point then going to be hard to get a provider to swallow the cost without paying it upfront or spread over a period.

The £1,000 figure sounds about right, don't recall it precisely. If the duct is across your own land then you could get price down by installing the duct to their specifications.

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(deleted) Tue 28-Nov-17 13:37:28
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Re: FTTP Install Costs (ECCs)


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I thought KCOM only served the Hull area?

If you�re in South Wales then Spectrum Internet might be able to do it cheaper. I think they use their own contractors for the civil works.


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Nov-17 13:44:53
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Re: FTTP Install Costs (ECCs)


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BT retail/business themselves may provide a more competitive install quote.

I had the same thought about kcom - I'm wondering if it is a leased line quote?
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(deleted) Tue 28-Nov-17 14:01:24
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Re: FTTP Install Costs (ECCs)


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Thanks. I'll do so more digging (boom-tish) as from Streetview I can see BT poles running down the B road which provides access to the site. There is a long drive so that might cover the 260m of duct. I wonder how the existing PSTN for the ADSL is fed though and why a new duct is needed.

To answer the other question, the order with Eclipse Internet but they are KCOM branded now.
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(staff) Tue 28-Nov-17 14:28:22
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Maybe the cable is directly buried rather than in a duct, not that uncommon for final drop to a single property and when cable was installed years before the idea of broadband

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(deleted) Tue 28-Nov-17 14:44:35
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Good point.

I'm trying to find out if the duct work quote was for the EUs private land and if so, are they interested enough to get a quote from a local company to do the work to compare the cost.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Nov-17 16:39:30
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To answer the other question, the order with Eclipse Internet but they are KCOM branded now.
I presume their service is only available to existing Eclipse customers then as I've tried with a known FTTP capable address on the KCOMhome site and it says they don't provide service there.

Personally if I was you I would still speak to BT and see if they charge the same for install.
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