Well, after 4-5 years of waiting I've finally been able to order Superfast. They delivered FTTC and I should get between 32 and 44 mbs with a minimum of 28 so around 7-11 times faster than I'm getting at the moment! FTTP on demand seems to be available as well but it doesn't seem easy to find info around pricing. Happy with FTTC for now

In reply to a post by jamescompton:

Well, after 4-5 years of waiting I've finally been able to order Superfast. They delivered FTTC and I should get between 32 and 44 mbs with a minimum of 28 so around 7-11 times faster than I'm getting at the moment! FTTP on demand seems to be available as well but it doesn't seem easy to find info around pricing. Happy with FTTC for now

Glad to hear you have Fibre at last. For FTTP on demand costs have a look at this post

That's great I would be happy with that speed also.

A lot of work has been done here but it's still ongoing, I have my doubts whether it will be finished by the end of the month but it's still possible.

Thanks for the link, I think I might have misunderstood exactly what was meant by FTTP on demand! Though to be fair, the openreach and superfast cymru site spent the most part of the last 2 years saying FTTP was going to be delivered in the next couple of months

Fingers crossed! I'm supposed to be moved over on the 3rd of January, installed the new smart hub today and realise I should really replace the 7 year old + single band network card before then! Just hoping I get close to the speeds given on the BT site...

In reply to a post by jamescompton:

Thanks for the link, I think I might have misunderstood exactly what was meant by FTTP on demand! Though to be fair, the openreach and superfast cymru site spent the most part of the last 2 years saying FTTP was going to be delivered in the next couple of months

I would think that after February 2018 it maybe worth looking at, as the min contract will be 12 months and not 36 and you may see a few more ISP's offering it !

In reply to a post by CJT:

I would think that after February 2018 it maybe worth looking at, as the min contract will be 12 months and not 36 and you may see a few more ISP's offering it !

I wouldn't bet on it. After the change it is much more of a product for CPs to consume in the background in order to uplift a number of customers at once. It is most definitely not going to become more mainstream at retail level.

It's true the contract is dropping to 12 months and the rental cost is dropping however all the subsidy from that is getting front loaded into the install charge. There will be some truly enormous install charges being raised.

The best use of the product will be for a CP or a consortium of them to select areas where they can cover the most premises per £ of build cost and purchase from Openreach to then sell to all their customers. They will not be selling FoD to an individual home in all likelihood. Again the installation cost will be immense, even on routine installs, as there's no subsidy from higher ongoing costs or longer contract length.

The total cost of FoD on the new terms will be about the same as now, just packed into 12 months not 36. So that's £2.4k of rental on the last 24 months along with £600 in lower rental from the first 12 months on top of the previous install costs, being very approximate.

I fully imagine providers that do this will also withdraw FTTC and ADSL from those premises so that they can only buy FTTP. If a consortium of CPs do this it will leave few options for those in the areas to stay on cheap and nasty copper services. There are really only 4 CPs taking service directly from Openreach at scale. BT Wholesale, Sky, TalkTalk, Vodafone. It's in everyone's interest pretty much for this to happen.

Edited by deleted (Sun 31-Dec-17 13:07:23)

Well, finally gone live today and look to be around 50 down and 10 up which will do me just fine for the time being, I'll put a reminder in my calendar to start complaining about the lack of FTTP in a years time

Sounds good to me

Work still ongoing here....will post back when it's finally completed.