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(staff) Tue 23-Jan-18 15:16:10
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The responsibility would fall onto BT, since they contracted the 3rd party civils rather than BDUK

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(deleted) Tue 23-Jan-18 17:40:07
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
All Openreach cabs with mains power will have a yellow sticker on when they are installed to advise of that fact. Of course over time though they fade, get picked off etc.


Can perhaps drop the 'will' in favour of 'should'. The second cabinet here didn't have a sticker. First one's is still attached.
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(deleted) Tue 23-Jan-18 18:15:07
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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:
In reply to a post by Icaras:
All Openreach cabs with mains power will have a yellow sticker on when they are installed to advise of that fact. Of course over time though they fade, get picked off etc.


Can perhaps drop the 'will' in favour of 'should'. The second cabinet here didn't have a sticker. First one's is still attached.


Yes I suppose so. They�re definitely supposed to be there, I remember it from the initial training.


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(deleted) Fri 26-Jan-18 01:13:15
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
I�ve not seen any FTTRn going in recently. The picture in that other link just looks like a standard small Openreach cabinet to me, it really could be anything.


While that cabinet (in the other link) could indeed have been anything, the number (10) and the message written on top were a definite giveaway that it had something to do with the newly-created PCP (10).

https://postimg.org/image/902dd27nh/

The simultaneous improvement to the FTTC checker's speeds on offer to a dozen or so properties were just a bonus.

Note that it certainly wasn't recent, as it had the attendant publicity that went with the early trials. That unfortunately hasn't appeared to go anywhere.

But, by the same token, the new cabinet could still be anything...

When BT were trialling the very first nodes for G.Fast, then they appeared to deploy a set of FTTRN-style nodes for G.Fast, alongside a smaller number of power pillars (in the same style cabinet). Power was distributed over "spare" copper pairs to get to the new nodes.

However, that deployment style didn't make it past the bean-counters either.
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(deleted) Fri 26-Jan-18 01:52:08
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This is an FTTrN power cabinet (which I had to report as it had the door open), and this is a pole-mounted node. That green power box, in this instance, powers two of those white nodes.

I've got photos of the insides somewhere, but I can't find them. When I originally posted them in a thread here I put them on Photobucket, which now tries to make you pay to access your own pictures.
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(deleted) Fri 26-Jan-18 08:41:13
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Yes, that cab in the photo is an odd one. As an engineer looking at it from the front you�d assume that it IS a cabinet 10. However the note on the top confuses matters. With it seemingly being part of a trial though it�s not a regular situation.

That�s why many of us that work on the network day in day out were a bit flummoxed by that original photo when it first showed up. For starters the note says that PCP 10 is in the jointbox, well you wouldn�t usually find a cabinet in a jointbox! Only time I�ve seen similar is when an old SCP gets removed and converted into an underground joint, but then all records of that SCP are removed from the system.
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(deleted) Mon 29-Jan-18 11:01:57
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Well, just been told by someone on the site that this is indeed FTTrn and that it is the power pillar that the electrics and battery go in. The actual VDSL gubbins will go in a newly created footway box next to it.

Apparently it needs power from what they called an LV feed, and that it doesn't come from the customers power (which I'm sure I read somewhere that was an option).

So looking very good for some superfast shenanigans in the near future.
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(deleted) Mon 29-Jan-18 11:04:20
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That would appear to be more than a guess.

You would have had to have privilege knowledge of FTTrn stand dates by location to deduce that.
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(committed) Mon 29-Jan-18 13:05:57
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That's all correct. What you see is the power piller that has the 230v LV power feed. The DSLAM is in a white hardened enclosure and located underground . There is a multi pair copper cable connecting to the power pillar . Also Underground will be the hybrid enclosure connecting the fibre to the DSLAM the copper terminations which will make up the new 'PCP'
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(deleted) Mon 29-Jan-18 13:12:47
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In reply to a post by witchunt:
That's all correct. What you see is the power piller that has the 230v LV power feed. The DSLAM is in a white hardened enclosure and located underground . There is a multi pair copper cable connecting to the power pillar . Also Underground will be the hybrid enclosure connecting the fibre to the DSLAM the copper terminations which will make up the new 'PCP'


All very interesting, there�s nothing like this in my area so I�ve never seen it in the network and probably would struggle to understand what to do with it if I encountered it. There must be extra training required for FTTrn
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