We are getting a little bit more technical here which is why I avoided mentioning EAD as people in the past have started arguing with me on the subject. When I know what I�m talking about as I work kn exchanges nearly every day of my working life.

It�s accurate to say that Vodafone have their own backhaul, but it�s over Openreach fibre (EAD). But it�s down to Vodafone to manage that, hence why you can think of it as their backhaul. If they�re running low, they can add another link. Also, it�s entirely separate to the BT Wholesale fibre entering and leaving the exchanges.

That last why I said it�s not correct for Voda to say it�ll be the same if you switch. They can�t possibly know the situation with BT Wholesale, TalkTalk, Sky or Zen�s backhaul.

I would also add that it�s highly unlikely to be the fibre running from the cabinet to the handover exchange. Openreach are pretty good at managing that. It�s more likely to be the Vodafone backhaul.

Edited by deleted (Sun 25-Feb-18 18:47:44)

In reply to a post by Icaras:

It�s accurate to say that Vodafone have their own backhaul, but it�s over Openreach fibre (EAD).

They use a fair bit of their optical platform (C&W era) for back-haul in the larger exchanges/on-net footprint.
I very much expect they would be using EBD where it makes sense, and OS(E)A in some places where they need the capacity.

Agreed there will be a good bit of EAD being used for backhaul out there though (or ONBS/BES where they haven't changed it yet).

In reply to a post by Icaras:

It�s more likely to be the Vodafone backhaul.

Guess it depends on how big the OHP serving for the EU's exchange is, but I'd be suspicious that the contention may well be on their Cablelink to the L2S, most are still 1Gb...


Either way, it's fairly clear this is in Voda's court to address, if they want (It's a contended product at the end of the day, and they are going for the budget market).

In reply to a post by Blmcg:

In reply to a post by Icaras:

It�s accurate to say that Vodafone have their own backhaul, but it�s over Openreach fibre (EAD).

They use a fair bit of their optical platform (C&W era) for back-haul in the larger exchanges/on-net footprint.
I very much expect they would be using EBD where it makes sense, and OS(E)A in some places where they need the capacity.

Agreed there will be a good bit of EAD being used for backhaul out there though (or ONBS/BES where they haven't changed it yet).

Indeed, they�ll try and avoid paying Openreach for backhaul fibre where at all possible. I know in my borough though there�s only 3 out of 11 exchanges where the old C&W network gets anywhere close to though.

Edited by deleted (Wed 28-Feb-18 07:22:01)