In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The pictured green �box thing� is a fibre DP node. The pole top jobbie is a blown fibre manifold.

They will run BFT from the manifold to a CBT on your exterior wall. The fibre lead in will be run to the ONT from there,

CBT not CSP? Typo I guess?

Yep, sorry.

CBT = Connectorised Block Terminal

CSP = Customer Splice Point (what I meant in this case)

You've both lost me!

Switching subject a little..why would they want to connect the phone line via the copper line and not VOIP?

And does this mean that I could not run a (non bt) voip phone over the fibre?

Yes, you can run VOIP service OK.

As VoIP would be over the IP layer there is nothing to stop you using a VoIP service, i.e. its just another IP connection, connection medium is irrelevant.

Generally only in locations that have NO copper is the FibreVoiceAccess (FVA) element used.

Thanks - silly question I guess, but why does one need to order a telephone line at all when I could run a non bt voip service over FTTP - is this simply because BT's systems use a telephone number as the account identifier, and its quite profitable not to correct it?

I don't believe (though I may be wrong) there's a way to order fttp without having a BT telephone number.

[EDIT: Looks like I am correct: http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13733/~/do-i-need-a-bt-landline-to-get-bt-infinity%3F ]

Edited by deleted (Tue 27-Feb-18 17:47:11)

With BT retail you have to have a phone line (old school copper or Fibre Voice Access) and pay the line rental component.

If you were to use Plusnet you can effectively end up without the phone line by cancelling the line rental (they only supply the phone service over copper) and pay the £2.50 surcharge instead of the line rental. You have to make your own arrangements for a phone service (VoIP supplier of your choice).

Downside of Plusnet is they only offer FTTP as a �trial� service at the same speeds as FTTC, so 80/20 is the fastest currently available.

Other providers like Zen Internet will also do a data only FTTP conection.

So its a choice of the ISP

Deepest mid Wales doesn't have much choice of supplier - only BT as far as I can see.

Where you are doesn�t make a difference, the same suppliers available - admittedly a fairly short list compared to FTTC.