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Standard User candlerb
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:04:23
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[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
I can't top that, but here's mine:

Old price: £7,675+VAT (previously quoted from Cerberus. Property is in band G, for which Openreach pricelist said £6,125 distance charge + £750 install charge). With the three-year front-loading of rental of approx £80/month, that makes £10,555+VAT.

New price: £13,700+VAT

It also says:

Number of premises passed for FTTP: 14

The build estimate includes a reduction for the number of premises passed as these would be able to obtain FTTP as a consequence of your build. Customers at these premises may submit a linked FTTPoD order to share the construction costs. You will receive a discount of £700.00 ex VAT from this figure for each linked order that is served by your build. Linked orders may be submitted to Cerberus Networks at the customer�s own risk. If one order is cancelled this will cancel all the linked orders so you must find a way for all parties to work together to share any costs.


The conclusion I draw is that Openreach has been finding these FTTPoD services *really* painful, and wants to stop people ordering them at all - rather than using FTTPoD as an opportunity to get their fibre rollout underway, with a large chunk of the cost paid up-front by keen subscribers.

Edited by candlerb (Wed 07-Mar-18 09:37:05)

Standard User brookheather
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:11:47
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Monthly price is £100+vat by the way - 12 month contract.
Standard User brookheather
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:13:37
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[re: pipcoo] [link to this post]
 
Interesting that some quotes are for 34 premises passed but mine is only for 7 - I live on a suburban street in NW London with many houses on my road so not sure why they would only consider 7 additional houses to be enabled?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:20:12
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[re: dw_soothill] [link to this post]
 
Had tried to warn that TCO over three years with a 1 year term and standard FTTP pricing was going to front load the on demand charge.

A 1 Gbps leased line might be cheaper to install, but over a few years they'll make more money from you due to high monthly fee

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Standard User brookheather
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:28:39
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I think we were expecting the TCO over 3 years to be similar however that clearly isn't the case unless you can sign up significant numbers of neighbours to reduce the install charge.
Standard User candlerb
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:32:55
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And the really sad thing is that it's now a poker game. If I don't accept this pricing straight away, but come back in 6 months or a year, I could find it has increased again.
Standard User dw_soothill
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:42:09
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[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
I would be quite prepared to pay the 3 years rental costs for a 12 month service but this is no where near 3 years rental costs.

In fact I could have a 100/100 leased line for 3 years for less than this install cost.

Does anyone know what the cost is of laying a small bore duct per metre under a road surface?

Thinking Micro-trenching would probably be cheapest.

I am 300m from an access duct to City Fibre but they will only extend out around 150m from the last access point.

Wondering if it would be cheaper to lay my own ducting in and blow some fibre through.
Standard User brookheather
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:43:03
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[re: candlerb] [link to this post]
 
Cerberus have told me that the DMCS Gigabit Voucher Scheme is going to be extended nationwide so that would potentially take £3000 off the install costs.

https://gigabitvoucher.culture.gov.uk/

Also apparently OpenReach haven't decided what information can be released about the premises passed (e.g. specific addresses). You would think they would have decided on all of this before handing out quotes?

Edited by brookheather (Wed 07-Mar-18 09:46:31)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:59:02
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There isn't much point in Cerberus telling you that you can get a £700 reduction for getting a passed premises to place a linked order, if Openreach won�t tell them which premises could order. It�s idiotic.

Also at the sort of figures quoted earlier, £700 is insignificant. What price are they going to charge the additional ones anyway? Standard FTTP?

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Standard User candlerb
(newbie) Wed 07-Mar-18 09:59:50
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Interesting... so Openreach increased my quote by £3,000, the same time as £3,000 gigabit vouchers are about to be rolled out by the government. Coincidence I'm sure smile
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