In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Errrrr...under the old FTTPoD pricing Cerberus charged ~ £165 per month, not £80 per month

I'm looking at the *difference* between the wholesale rental under the old and new models, to find out how much Openreach gained from the higher rental on the original 3 year contract.

Old model: rental £1188 per year (£99 per month), 3 year contract.

New model: rental £456 per year (£38 per month) for 330/30; or £253.68 per year (£21.14 per month) for 160/30, 1 year contract.

So the premium you paid for the first 3 years service under the old model was £61 (+VAT) per month - possibly £77.86 if you can find anyone prepared to sell you the new 160/30 service.

Yes: the service provider will probably add some markup on that. But an estimate of £80+VAT per month is being pretty generous to Openreach I think.

Fair enough but you have to remember one thing: despite everyone's assumptions (incl mine) that overall ownership costs were expected to remain the same, this was never written in stone. So based on the feedback (albeit limited) so far, it appears the overall costs -for lone installs at least- have actually increased under the new pricing. Reason? Only Openreach can answer that... Though multiple cases of people being quoted 39k for installation does sound rather odd!

Edited by deleted (Wed 07-Mar-18 14:39:57)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Though multiple cases of people being quoted 39k for installation does sound rather odd!

Not necessarily by Openreach.

I wonder what Fluidone's estimates would be.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

The conclusion I draw is that Openreach has been finding these FTTPoD services *really* painful, and wants to stop people ordering them at all - rather than using FTTPoD as an opportunity to get their fibre rollout underway, with a large chunk of the cost paid up-front by keen subscribers.

This is exactly my thoughts. FTTPoD could have been a way to encourage more fibre roll out, even if it was just an indicator for demand. But it seems when push comes to shove someone somewhere isn't prepared to use FTTPoD as a way to spearhead a full rollout of full fibre.

There doesn't seem to be any recognition that the customer by ordering these services are doing OR a favour too.

Looking at the comments from you guys - i too will chuck my penny on the table, got my quote, its £14,600 + vat, 9 premises passed but wont tell which they are due to legal reasons, which is really stupid,

what a load [censored]

9 premises passed but wont tell which they are due to legal reasons

It is interesting as I don't believe there would be anything stopping BT giving the addresses. I can understand the customer's name would be withheld (and indeed they may not even know it) but the address is not personal data.

We had a quote from Fluidone before the new pricing of £5925 + £320pm(36 month contract)
Received a price from Cerberus under the new pricing of £10,400 + £100pm (12 month contract)

So the new pricing will break even vs the old in 2 years

Compared with the £640pm we currently pay for a microwave link we also break even in much less than 2 years.

Kudos to Cerberus, when I rang to kick off the survey they suggested waiting a few weeks for the voucher scheme to be extended and also to discuss with other companies served from our telephone pole to see if we can share the cost. Unusual for a company to 'turn down' an order to save you money

Spooky huh ?

I have FTTPoD right now - some of my neighbours want to take advantage. Given the pole has the fibre running to it now I wonder whether this would be taken into account if a quote was raised?

How can we make sure they get the best price?

In reply to a post by Jabes:

I have FTTPoD right now - some of my neighbours want to take advantage. Given the pole has the fibre running to it now I wonder whether this would be taken into account if a quote was raised?

How can we make sure they get the best price?

Have you checked whether they can now get native FTTP - when your FFTPoD was activated didn't your neighbours then get native FTTP showing as available? Or are they not immediate neighbours?