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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 08-Mar-18 14:06:46
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As above - I am part of the £39,000 club - Residental too
Standard User bowdon
(committed) Thu 08-Mar-18 16:06:25
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In reply to a post by dotbill:
As above - I am part of the £39,000 club - Residental too


It seems to be a popular club! smile

@GenuineCerberus - Where does the £39,000 number come from?

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Standard User Jabes
(member) Thu 08-Mar-18 16:18:03
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
At present none of your immediate neighbours (or mine) can order 'native' FTTP as we had FTTPoD installed under the old pricing model. I'm not sure if/when this will ever change

They have installed a multi-port connectorised interface at the top of my pole.

I jokingly said to one of my neighbours that we could do some point-to-point wifi but in actuality that might be the best solution for them - and it would be quite fun!


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(deleted) Thu 08-Mar-18 16:39:08
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My residential quote £12800+VAT with 12 mystery premises 'passed'
No idea where the 12 comes from, there are only 10 other homes that appear to have drop wires from the same pole as mine.

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Standard User Snake
(experienced) Thu 08-Mar-18 17:25:41
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I am so glad i ordered when I did. I knew I wanted it and it was too risky to wait and since I was happy with paying what the cost was at the time, I couldn't complain if it went down.

Sorry for the others who missed out.

Cerberus FTTPoD
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(deleted) Thu 08-Mar-18 21:03:19
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It seems to me the value of the new pricing will depend on being able to both share costs, and qualify for some of the upcoming £3k SME vouchers.

Eg, for an initial build of £13k, if 2x SMEs plus 2x residences all share the net 1st year costs equally, then its only about £2k each. It might be argued that true fibre adds much more than £2k to the value of each property, so it becomes a no brainer even if none of them wants it for themselves. For the same cost with purely residential you would need 8 households to all agree which is maybe too big an ask.
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(deleted) Thu 08-Mar-18 23:06:37
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I imagine a popular club that no one wants to be in!

So what strikes me as criminal is that £39k is way in excess of the prices being banded around for FTTC cabinet costs a couple of years ago (e.g. when community groups were seeking quotes). And if I'm correct, these properties being quoted for FTTPoD must already be served by a PCP with an FTTC twin (even if too far away to get a decent speed).

It would be interesting to know how far, and with ducting or pole supply, people thing they are from their VDSL cabinet and hence existing fibre. It almost sounds like Openreach are planning to trench all the way, across a couple of rivers and motorways in the process!!

Would also be interested to know if anyone knows what typical civils pricing is, and likewise the labour and materials element of stringing some fibre along a line of poles. Is this a case of no regulation and few suppliers taking consumers for a ride? Or does it really cost that much?

Andrew, is this something you could run a news investigation on? Because it sounds pretty crazy. Of course there's not a lot to compare at present...
Standard User lincsat
(newbie) Thu 08-Mar-18 23:36:01
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Mine is £3,900 with 15 premises passed - I guess that makes me a 10 percenter
Standard User Brib
(newbie) Fri 09-Mar-18 01:21:45
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£10600 plus VAT, 3 premises passed for me. 1100m from agg node radially, about 1985m by duct and poles.

People in the £39k club, are you all on slow connections and long distance from exchange please?

It's a big number, just wonder how far you can get for that much money.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 53138kbps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Fri 09-Mar-18 01:27:30
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It's not priced from the nearest FTTC cabinet. It's priced from the nearest Fibre Aggregation Node. An Agg Node usually serves 3 or 4 FTTC cabinets, so the chances are that for most people the nearest Agg Node is further away than their local PCP.

Does anyone with a huge quote know what band they were in under the old pricing? For quotes where the Agg Node is 1-2km+ away then civil costs can really start to rack up. They are no longer recouping the cost of a 3 year contract so a large jump on price was to be expected.

Perhaps any quote for a distance above x is automatically £39k. Those with such high quotes it would be helpful if you could give some more info like any known distances or previous price bands.
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