I noticed the dsl checker updated for me. I discovered it today.

So FTTP on Demand is available.

A question I'd like to ask is what is the significance of FTTP on Demand suddenly appearing on the dsl checker?

Excluding all the debate about pricing, which everyone on this thread as covered. I was just wondering what have OR done for it to appear now on the checker?

I'm thinking that they have been expanding their fibre network closer to my house than it was previously so FTTP on Demand now appears?

I'm probably wrong but thought I'd ask others more knowledgable than me.

Presumably you already had access to FTTC so it is very unlikely that anything changed as far as fibre getting closer to you.

They may have upgraded the backhaul in the exchange. It may also just be that they now have engineers available in your area that are FTTP trained and therefore can offer the service.

In reply to a post by bowdon:

So FTTP on Demand is available.

I was just wondering what have OR done for it to appear now on the checker?

I'm thinking that they have been expanding their fibre network closer to my house than it was previously so FTTP on Demand now appears?

Most likely your exchange (or head end exchange) is now FTTP ready. Not all FTTC terminating exchanges support FTTP, though vast majority do.

edit: beaten to it by ian72

Edited by deleted (Tue 15-May-18 16:10:03)

Thanks for the replies both - ian72

Now I just need some poor sap nearby to order it lol... if not it'll end up being me, and hoping its not too much lol

Well its about time the exchange got upgraded. It serves more residential and business customers than most of the other exchanges around this area. I've ranted about that somewhere on the forum before lol.

FTTC is available all over here. I've also noticed on the code lookup site that 4 or 5 cabinets (ECI) are due to be expanded in 2018/19.

In reply to a post by zzing123:

EAD and PONs aren't actually that different topologically, just that the EAD has a more traditional switch at the other end. PONs are very limited shelf life, slower, less invested and less researched, and splicing fibre to create the PON is actually harder than just laying a bunch of dark fibre.

Worth noting that the NGA nodes that serve the VDSL, G.Fast and FTTP estate are ran all the way back to the OLT at their assigned NGA head-end (more often than not not the serving copper exchange) and use newer fibre (as a result of their more recent installation).

This means in a lot of cases they run vastly different routes than that of the (mixed age/quality) fibre used for EAD/Optical circuits, which typically run towards the nearest serving exchange and are more of a mesh of varying ages and quality of fibre.

The standing practice has been (and still is, for now) that the NGA fibre network and the "legacy" fibre networks are treated wholly independently.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Has anybody actually got any survey results back from the new system yet? I placed my order on March 9th and am still waiting for the survey to take place.

The same here - I placed an order at the end of March and am still waiting for a survey date to be set. It's almost as if there's only one engineer doing the surveys in the whole country!

In reply to a post by Retron:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Has anybody actually got any survey results back from the new system yet? I placed my order on March 9th and am still waiting for the survey to take place.

The same here - I placed an order at the end of March and am still waiting for a survey date to be set. It's almost as if there's only one engineer doing the surveys in the whole country!

I had the Openreach survey done within a few weeks of placing my order back in Feb/Mar 2017, obviously under the old pricing. It might be that Openreach are currently snowed under with FoD survey requests hence the long wait times. At least you have a place in the queue now, just a matter of waiting for your turn though I'm pretty sure OR have more than 1 Surveyor on their books

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

I'm pretty sure OR have more than 1 Surveyor on their books

Although they say they are doing only 20 FTTPoD installs per month, across the whole country.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

I'm pretty sure OR have more than 1 Surveyor on their books

Although they say they are doing only 20 FTTPoD installs per month, across the whole country.

Correct, the limit of 20 orders is based on historical demand, which IIRC was roughly 10 orders per month in 2017 (according to FluidOne). However I suspect OR may raise this limit if they deem it necessary, provided the manpower is there. They'd be mad not to, considering that Jo Public is willing to pay 100% costs of FTTP to certain areas and is in effect making future commercial FTTP deployment easier/cheaper/quicker for Openreach.

Edited by deleted (Wed 16-May-18 09:42:45)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

I'm pretty sure OR have more than 1 Surveyor on their books

Although they say they are doing only 20 FTTPoD installs per month, across the whole country.

Correct, the limit of 20 orders is based on historical demand, which IIRC was roughly 10 orders per month in 2017 (according to FluidOne). However I suspect OR may raise this limit if they deem it necessary, provided the manpower is there. They'd be mad not to, considering that Jo Public is willing to pay 100% costs of FTTP to certain areas and is in effect making future commercial FTTP deployment easier/cheaper/quicker for Openreach.

To be clear, the limit is an accepting of 20 new orders into their workstack per month. Given these take better part of half a year to install they wouldn't be getting very far with a hard limit of 20!