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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 02-Aug-18 23:39:48
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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CBT being connectorised block (new 'splice-free') fibre? This post seems to suggest it's a CBT node as well.

Yes there is clearly the optical warning triangle on the box.

To the poster who mentioned the CBT terminals on the pole, I did get a photo of these on the same pole: terminals/connector?

There are also yellow ID labels on each of the three fibre 'feeds' which would suggest to me that each of these could be used for individual properties?

It doesn't come to my house, copper does. But it essentially goes straight past, albeit along the bottom of the valley which is at the bottom of my garden. It's a rural area on a steep valley side so tricky to see the exact infrastructure, but the nearest pole where my copper goes would be about 50 metres away. I'm sure all this infrastructure (as pictured) goes past on these poles. The photos linked are taken further outwards along the valley and away from the hamlet.

If you travel down the road back towards the hamlet, there is a green pole-mounted box which is a fibre splitter/ag node at the end of the lane. I assume this must provide fibre to the numerous properties, including mine, up the lane.

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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Fri 03-Aug-18 00:01:36
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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They can't just break in to fibre as it passes your property.
You would be fed from the nearest fibre DP.
If there isn't 1 near you then fibre would need routed to you from the nearest splitter node, and a fibre DP installed on a nearby pole.

How far away is the nearest pole with the connectorised DP you pictured?

Do you have access to FTTC? If so what are the estimates?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Aug-18 00:09:12
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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No I appreciate that.

The connectorised DP pole is about 150 m away from the property.

FTTC isn't available (due to distance I'd imagine). Current ADSL is about 3mbps and 400k upload, and highly unstable.


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Standard User sidef
(newbie) Fri 03-Aug-18 09:41:53
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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We have these in our village for BDUK funded FTTP.

Its a fibre splitter. The 3 leads with labels are probably 1 input and 2 output fibres. The outputs probably go to the connectorised block terminals which are on other poles (may have one at the top of your pole). That's what happens in my village. Picture of our splitter.

https://imageshack.com/a/img922/357/8rKPpt.jpg

The connectorised block terminals are at the tops of the poles and are rectangular with round covered ports on. In my village these are 8 and 4 port.

https://imageshack.com/a/img922/266/CGhwl0.jpg


What you mentioned as may be connectors are actually strain reliefs for the overhead fibre. They wrap round these.

https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3889/WmlVHZ.jpg

Edited by sidef (Fri 03-Aug-18 14:26:29)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 03-Aug-18 10:07:27
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Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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FTTP passes lots and lots of premises in Wales and while it serves a lot every one of those served has properties nearby without it.

The BDUK phase 1 project ended in December 2017, and successor contracts are in procurement so unless you want to pay via the Community Fibre scheme to get your DP enabled you are effectively just waiting for the projects to restart, which may be via Openreach, or could be a new firm using different infrastructure.

As pointed out none of the kit on your pole is the final drop DP connector, the pictures at the bottom of the page at https://www.thinkbroadband.com/guides/fibre-fttc-ftt... show what the connectorised DP looks like. They vary in size in terms of the number of connectors, and if someone is live you will see a drop fibre plugged in.

Not good news, but reality is that unless someone else pays for it, you are not getting FTTP

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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(deleted) Fri 03-Aug-18 10:44:33
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Re: Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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Thanks for the replies. Disappointing to note.

I don't think a community program would be possible; my nearest neighbour (100m away) can get FTTP!

I mentioned to the BT complaints guy that I am amenable to having a sensible conversation to explore the costs of connecting just me (akin to FTTPoD or ECCs). Hopefully that's a possibile avenue we can explore when I next get an update from him.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 03-Aug-18 10:55:48
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Re: Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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That route for you would be Community Fibre though a community of 1.

If you are talking to BT, then its BT Consumer and the decision and costing for all this is via Openreach and Community Fibre is their path.

A very very slim chance, that a DP was planned for your pole but project finished before it was done, but very very slim, the areas where this was the case have been pretty much completed after an interim agreement with the Welsh Assembly.

If you are happy to share you address details with me via email [email protected] I can pass them onto Openreach and see if they can check situation and get a ball park price to get you connected.

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(deleted) Fri 03-Aug-18 11:22:52
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Re: Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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Thanks Andrew, email sent.
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(deleted) Fri 03-Aug-18 13:30:28
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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In reply to a post by sidef:
Its a fibre splitter..... Picture of our splitter.
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/357/8rKPpt.jpg

The connectorised block terminals.....
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/266/CGhwl0.jpg


....are actually strain reliefs for the overhead fibre....
https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3889/WmlVHZ.jpg


Great clear photos and descriptions, thanks.... for all the questions about what's this, what's that, I wonder if there could be a reference page sticky on the forum (with links to any relevant TBB pages too), to be referred to and where necessary updated?
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 03-Aug-18 14:53:48
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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In reply to a post by olicuk:
In reply to a post by sidef:
Its a fibre splitter..... Picture of our splitter.
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/357/8rKPpt.jpg

The connectorised block terminals.....
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/266/CGhwl0.jpg


....are actually strain reliefs for the overhead fibre....
https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3889/WmlVHZ.jpg


Great clear photos and descriptions, thanks.... for all the questions about what's this, what's that, I wonder if there could be a reference page sticky on the forum (with links to any relevant TBB pages too), to be referred to and where necessary updated?

The first image I have never seen so I cannot comment on, the second image is the new conectorized block and the third image looks like two tension blocks.

Paul

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