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In essence yes, The effect essentially is that Wholesale are not allowed to provide us competitive pricing in Market A.
The cost overhead is significant.

As was mentioned above, the BMCR draft is out which will greatly reduce the size of Market A and in the case of GEA, use the head-end exchange's market instead. (There are still some head-ends in market A, so this wont go away for everyone).

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statement...

Just a note to all that may be affected by Market A price surcharges - Ofcom have now published the final Statement on Wholesale Broadband Access - Market Review.

The list of exchanges defined as belonging to Market A or Market B are listed in Annex 1 (Appendix 1 and 2):

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0032...

Their handover node is still changing to Market B and the GEA clause is still in the final statement, so once Wholesale implement these then it's up to the SP to decide what if any changes they make.

The document appears to say it is effective immediately. But it refers to a "Directive" so maybe this is a separate document. Does anyone know when BT Wholesale have to adopt the new pricing structure? It is one thing to know the Market A surcharge will probably not apply: it is quite another to get sceptical neighbours to sign up to an extra £1500 pound bill they will "probably" not have to pay!

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The document appears to say it is effective immediately. But it refers to a "Directive" so maybe this is a separate document. Does anyone know when BT Wholesale have to adopt the new pricing structure? It is one thing to know the Market A surcharge will probably not apply: it is quite another to get sceptical neighbours to sign up to an extra £1500 pound bill they will "probably" not have to pay!

The document had been sent to the European Commission for comment, last month. Having received those comments (in a letter published with the final statement) it is now published as the Final Statement.

For me the effective date is immediate - in the defined terms of the T&Cs with Cerberus states that Market A and Market B are as defined by Ofcom:

"
1.1.14 �Market A� shall mean the areas defined by Ofcom as Market A;
1.1.15 �Market B� shall mean the areas defined by Ofcom as Market B;
"

I have served Cerberus notice of the fact that my immediate serving exchange is now Market B (and indeed the Head-End Exchange is also Market B).

So in my particular order situation with Cerberus I see there is no dependency on BT Wholesale to adopt any revised pricing structures.

Haha - no just NO!

Estimated Build Cost: £36,100.00 ex VAT <=== WHAAAAAT!!!!!???

uck a duck!

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Estimated Build Cost: £3,900.00 ex VAT, Final price: £2455.15

Nice result there, can you use a voucher?

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Nice result there, can you use a voucher?

Yes, already approved. Shame I can't use the extra for the first 6 Months line rental.

A very nice result then, good to hear of a nice result like this, hope the build goes well.

Well ive just had my costs back.

The estimated build charge was £8,800 + VAT. The confirmed build charge is £2,151.73 + VAT

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Well ive just had my costs back.

The estimated build charge was £8,800 + VAT. The confirmed build charge is £2,151.73 + VAT

Excellent news - 75.5% less than the original estimate! I note the one which started this thread went £13,600.00 -> £3,342.67, and interestingly that works out at exactly the same percentage.

Not everybody gets this (mine was 50%) but it seems the desktop quotes really are worst-case figures.

Yeah how odd is that regarding the percentage rates ?