So no you don't need to be present for the external work, but it might be beneficial to you if you are.

100% agree.

reading this very interesting thread as I am in a similar situation., I wonder how it all turned out given it is almost 6 months since the last post?

I am told by Openreach in writing that FTTP is now available to order and that I should approach a provider and put in an order which will trigger a visit by a survey officer "to come out to see if it possible to get the fibre network to your address, what work will be required and if additional charges will be incurred".

The adsl checker says "2 stage" and "Single Dwelling Unit residential OH feed with no aniticipated issues". Openreach have said they did "check to see if we could associate your address with the existing fibre equipment but the maximum distance to provide FTTP is 150 metres from the fibre equipment to the premise and when measured the distance to your address it is 297 metres"

That is, I reckon, the true distance the existing OH copper line runs to a pole on which is mounted a green metal DP node(?) at roughly head height (?).

I don't know what would need to be done being some 150 metres over their limit but It sounds as though this could cost a lot..anyone have any (ball-park) idea of how much?..based on what information I have provided. I'd rather not place an order without having some idea. Thanks for reading.

There seems some info which is at odds there ...

The adsl checker says "2 stage" and "Single Dwelling Unit residential OH feed with no aniticipated issues"

Would imply blown fibre tubing, which negates some of the distance constraints imposed by the connectorised method. So this goes against ...

Openreach have said they did "check to see if we could associate your address with the existing fibre equipment but the maximum distance to provide FTTP is 150 metres from the fibre equipment to the premise and when measured the distance to your address it is 297 metres"

rather.

The green joint you describe is a track node or a DP node ..... what you need to see is what is fitted at the tops of poles.

If you order you won't be charged and no work will be done unless you agree to any excess construction charges.
OpenReach often cover the up to £1000 and you pay the rest.
BT have been known to absorb this cost if you choose them.

The fact it's a 2 stage install may even be beneficial to you as you won't be restrained by the fixed lengths of connectorised cable (don't quote me on that).

Until an order is placed and a survey done then nobody knows.

hi Zarjaz and thanks for your post.

Yes I think I know what you are saying..blown fibre in tubing can be used for quite long distances so why the 150m "limit" that I was quoted? ( by someone in "Infrastructure solutions")...is that what you are getting at in terms of conflicting statements? To be honest I'm not sure what is meant by the "connectorised method" but I'll have a search. Assume that is sued for quite short lengths/distances?

Think all/any fibre would have to go overhead along existing line of poles.

Taken a few pictures of pole but how to post them here? There's the green metal cabinet about same dia as pole about head height..a black domed thing about half way up and from that thickish black with yellow striped cable runs up t oa black terminal screwed to top of wooden pole. This green "cabinet" is highly unlikely to be ever used by anyone other than us or our one neighbour about 100m away and neither of us are currently on fibre though it is, so say ,available to order for both of us.

p.s thanks John only saw your post after I'd replied to Zarjaz..you're right.

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Also wondering how OP got on. Machynlleth is not far from me.

One thing that stood out is I've painstakingly been through many buildings on the DSL Checker and noted that only one came up as "OH Feed Not Evaluated". That was mine, and it turned out FTTP wasn't available. I may be wrong that seems almost like the default/placeholder text. Everything else checked was either: OH Feed No Anticipated Issues; OH Feed Line of Sight Problems Trees or OH Feed Potential Wayleave Issues.

Hi All,

Sorry to not update.

The house purchase fell through as there were some issues about the property which came to light at the last minute. A real shame, but we continue our search in the area.

I never was 100% sure on the fibre. Technically it looked ok, but as someone here said, you only really know when you order, which I could not as I didn't own it. We asked if we could order it in preparation and pay total bill, but sellers refused. I'd got to the point where I'd almost satisified myself that a weak 4g signal (antenna up a long mast) would have to do if OpenReach didn't play ball.

In the end we got diverted with other concerns.

All the help here was absolutely fantastic, and I'm already using the advice (and equipment) when looking for new properties in the area. If I can be of any help to anyone with what I found out in the area, let me know or post here.

And likewise I am just over the hill from Mach, keep in touch if you have any local broadband queries. Good luck in the property search; it's an absolutely beautiful area.

Thank you I may well take you up on that offer.
The whole area is wonderful.
If you notice any small holdings in the area up for sale drop me a PM!

To post pictures you need to upload them to an image hosting site, then provide a link in your post.

Currently Openreach, for its residential FTTP, use �Legacy� with blown fibre tubing, customer splice points, manifolds etc, with splicing required at various points OR a � connectorised � system where pre made fibre lead ins are just push-fit into the DP nodes, run to the property, brought to the ONT and then an end fitted allowance wing connection.

The second option is cheaper for the company as it means not having to train its staff to spice, and not having to equip them with expensive splicers. The pre-made connectorised reels come in various lengths, 160m being the longest OH one (there is longer, but for special orders only)