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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-Aug-18 18:03:00
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Re: Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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An MC34 to be precise.

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(deleted) Mon 06-Aug-18 19:12:11
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Re: Its rural Wales and no BDUK project currently


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I'll look forward to it... fingers and toes crossed
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(deleted) Tue 07-Aug-18 15:37:02
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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I walked down to the end of the lane and found this, about 3 poles on from the other images of the splitter and strain relievers...

Image 1

Image 2

Is this one of the Connectorised Terminals?

I am working on a diagram to explain where all of this is


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(deleted) Tue 07-Aug-18 16:19:14
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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And here's the diagram... bear with me, it's not the best!

Diagram
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(deleted) Wed 08-Aug-18 01:43:47
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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In reply to a post by 512uk:
I walked down to the end of the lane and found this, about 3 poles on from the other images of the splitter and strain relievers...

Image 1

Image 2

Is this one of the Connectorised Terminals?


Looks like it to me.... this or rather its CommScope replacement (see 0:47s here).

https://www.commscope.com/solutions/multiport-servic...

Interesting then looking at your map... I presume you live in one of the properties shown as no FTTP available? And in the photo of the CBT, that it seems to be the end of the line for fibre, I presume the cable at the top of the pole is the copper line, and that continues onto one or more poles then splits to the two properties you mention (so it's not really the fibre splitting as per your annotation)?

What are roughly the distances and how many poles between the properties? And from the green cabinet on the pole by the main road, can you see how many separate fibre "cables" take the route up your valley? I presume there would be at least one more CBT serving the property with FTTP available... and the same or another CBT to serve the three properties in the middle. Have you got binoculars?!

It looks like the properties at the end, and you'd think therefore also the ones in the middle, should be able to get FTTP... but then with the obviously challenging environment, I guess you can't tell that there's a totally completed link up the valley to the CBT you can see. And where it splits to the other side of the valley, what does the DSLchecker say of these properties... can any of them get fibre?

The splitter seems to have one in, 2 out, so therefore I'm guessing the "in" comes down the valley from the hamlet, and the 2 "outs" go to the CBT you've photographed, and across to the other side... therefore none return to the 3 properties so you'd need to look for more infrastructure downstream nearer the hamlet that could potentially supply these.

In an ideal world you'll be able to find someone in Openreach who can cross-check your map and their records and tell you really if there's a missing link (and any way to get that addressed), or if they just forgot to update everything to show the work as complete. Though I fear that's an impossible task with BDUK/payment implications... unless they've already claimed for them, they wouldn't want to add properties whilst out of contract if it prevents them claiming in due course - plus they'd no-doubt want a field survey to check everything, and have no funding to do that! So good luck!!
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Aug-18 06:03:08
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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Yep, those are connectorised block terminals.

That they are fitted doesn�t necessarily mean they are �good to go� though, there may still be work required to get light from the splitter to the CBT.

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(deleted) Wed 08-Aug-18 09:37:22
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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I wish OR would grow some NAD's and stand up to the weak ass government.

Just sayin...
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(deleted) Wed 08-Aug-18 12:09:06
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Thanks for the reply olicuk.

Yes I live in the top property in the group of three that FTTP is not available.

With the infrastructure going past my house below, I would like to see what's on the poles down there (but it's hidden and on private land). I have a feeling perhaps there may be further CBTs on poles to serve the three properties, as the distance for all of them will easily be less than 150m to the poles.

The two farms near the CBT photo I have both checked and neither are available for FTTP on DSL checker or OR website which would concur that infrastructure is still being built out, albeit the skeleton cabling is up.

Regarding the neighbour who can get FTTP, I have had a good look and can't see any CBT. But again, their fibre feed does go down into the valley. I'll have a walk and look!

I have had two further updates from BT complaints, who have now managed to speak to a Openreach infrastructure/project manager who is area based and rolling out in my area. They have confirmed they are building out infrastructure to serve my house and the ETA for being complete is approx September. Great news and just around the corner - this all does seem to concur with everything we have been discussing. I just need to sit tight now keeping fingers crossed.

Seems perhaps a little bit strange that BDUK happened 12 months ago and this final bit is still being done. None of this shows on the 'when and where' OR web page.

I did go through all properties on the DSL checker in the hamlet and count up who can get what. Out of 79 properties, 47% of these currently can obtain FTTP. 18% FTTPoD and remaining 35% are stuck with copper.
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(deleted) Thu 09-Aug-18 21:48:44
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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That's good news that they're apparently actively working on it, and you're not stuck in limbo between Welsh Assembly BDUK contracts. It would have been better still if you heard it direct from Openreach so you know it isn't just a delaying tactic, but I guess you'll have to just wait it out.... and keep an eye out for Openreach vans!

Maybe it just falls into place with the start of the thread, where for your original NAD issue whichunt suggested they need to reallocate your FTTP to a different DP... maybe your copper one is too far away or too inaccessible and so they'll route you from another or are placing a fibre one where there wasn't a copper one. I guess the data from your other thread tells you where your copper DP and those of your neighbours with and without the ability to get fibre currently are?
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(deleted) Fri 10-Aug-18 00:42:57
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Re: Openreach cancelled FTTP order - NAD issue?


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Yeah my biggest fear was being left in post-BDUK limbo due to funding drying up.

It could well be what they originally said (let's hope!). Although I kind of think it was something to do with the address, as my address tends to have two names (both Welsh). One of the names hasn't been used for a long while but was on an old post office file that the solicitors picked up on it when we were purchasing. The BT/OR database has this listed with a UPRN next to it, with no NAD key. The UPRN is sequential with neighbouring properties so must be accurate. When you check this address it comes up as nothing available, which makes sense as it isn't used. The other name is the same but has "uchaf" on the end (Welsh for upper), and is the name in use. If you check this one, it has no UPRN, but does have a NAD key. But this returns data on ADSL being available etc. This is the one on my BT bill.

My DP number I've found out is the same as the two houses "next door" (just down in the valley). No other properties share the DP. Makes sense as my copper line goes straight down, through trees, toward the two houses. I can't see any poles or anything, as the trees are so thick this time of year. I am sure that if FTTP is going to be deployed to all three houses, it'll be down there by them somewhere on or near the current copper DP. Again, none of the three properties sharing this DP show as FTTP being available.

Although my sketch shows the red line going up the valley, I had a drone flight above the valley and couldn't see any poles connecting our three houses/DP area to the next properties down closer to the hamlet and where the other neighbour can get FTTP. I'm assuming there must be ducting, unless the poles take an unusual route through trees.
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