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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Sat 24-Nov-18 12:00:08
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Re: New all in one cabinet. Infill


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Still the same as I said previously. Particularly the bit in bold.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:
From the cabinet being ready to go it can take weeks/months to perform the necessary live-to-live migration.

They need to coordinate a date with every ISP connected to the current FTTC cabinet that is being moved to the new FTTC cabinet


Only when the cabinet is ready can the live to live migration begin. It can take weeks/months from that point.

As Witchunt says you are physically running through cabinet 39 now, but fibre services are still coming from the further cabinet.

They will first move all customers receiving fibre from the old cabinet to new, then the cabinet will be open for orders.
Standard User kitcat
(experienced) Sat 24-Nov-18 13:54:54
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john83

It may be that there are NO FTTC workers on the Cab due to the distance from the old Cab. In that case there will be no migrations to be done.

This is indicated be the fact the customers have all been moved to the new cab, whereas is there were FTTC workers to be moved this would be done first as otherwise their service would degrade to a point that it may be perceived to have failed.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 24-Nov-18 13:55:59
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Ok thanks. This is a new all in one infill cabinet.

Non of us get fibre at the moment just 1mb adsl. When I said had migration happened I meant moving the existing adsl lines that�s all as there is no existing fibre services to migrate.

I know once fibre is finally available at new cabinet then we will have to place orders to switch from adsl to fibre with our IsP

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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Sat 24-Nov-18 14:31:30
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Re: New all in one cabinet. Infill


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I've no idea if there are existing FTTC subscribers who are being connected to this particular infill cabinet or if a live-to-live migraine is required.

With an AIO infill cabinet they can route the lines through it prior to the live-to-live migration though.
They don't take any orders until this is done so their is no VDSL2 signal generated at the AIO to interfere.
Any existing VDSL2 signal coming from the far away cabinet would pass through unaffected.

Wether OpenReach actually do things in this order I've no idea. It shouldn't degrade service though it's just another joint.

In reply to a post by witchunt:
Your line is now physically passing through cab 39, but that's is all. The FTTC service is still coming from the original cabinet which is why nothing has changed as yet regards the broadband speeds.
Once the cabinet is fully connected and commissioning then the job of arranging the live to live migrations can start. Once they are done the speeds should be improved.


I trust this to be accurate though.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 24-Nov-18 15:39:10
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Ok so once that says available you know the cabinet is live and people who have VDSL2 already have been migrated

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 24-Nov-18 15:46:46
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In reply to a post by AngS:
Non of us get fibre at the moment just 1mb adsl. When I said had migration happened I meant moving the existing adsl lines that�s all as there is no existing fibre services to migrate.
There will be places closer to the new cabinet than yourself who will be migrated to it. They will have FTTC but much slower than they will after migration.

It will be those being organised that will be causing the delay. They need to be moved before your area is allowed to order FTTC from it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Nov-18 18:43:41
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In reply to a post by AngS:
Ok thanks. This is a new all in one infill cabinet.

Non of us get fibre at the moment just 1mb adsl. When I said had migration happened I meant moving the existing adsl lines that�s all as there is no existing fibre services to migrate.

I know once fibre is finally available at new cabinet then we will have to place orders to switch from adsl to fibre with our IsP


If you currently can�t get FTTC then it�s a completely different situation. The lines have probably been diverted into the new cabinet already, and this usually causes faults when it happens which may account for the large number of engineers you�ve seen recently.

The routing at Openreach�s end for your line may have already been updated. Currently your one might shoe on the system as going through both the old cabinet and the new cabinet. That�s what usually happens.

In your case there�s no migration, as soon as the new fibre cabinet goes live you can order service from it. Worth checking nearby roads every couple of weeks to see if those houses can order it.

I�ve come across a situation recently where 20 lines were not routed through the new infill cabinet and no one realises for over a year and it�s onlt just being corrected.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by AngS:
Non of us get fibre at the moment just 1mb adsl. When I said had migration happened I meant moving the existing adsl lines that�s all as there is no existing fibre services to migrate.
There will be places closer to the new cabinet than yourself who will be migrated to it. They will have FTTC but much slower than they will after migration.

It will be those being organised that will be causing the delay. They need to be moved before your area is allowed to order FTTC from it.


Might be the case that no one connected to the new cabinet could currently order FTTC from the distant cabinet, that�s what he�s saying anyway.

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Standard User lmschuffer
(learned) Sat 21-Dec-19 14:06:00
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It would be good to hear from anybody in this post on how things are now.

I have been through a similar procedure and am connected to an infill cab and although my sync speeds are 80/20 my throughput is in the 50/60 range.

Numerous OR engineers and good support from my ISP have not been able to solve the problem.

I have spoken to 6 of my near neighbours who are with a range of ISP's and all have the same issue and those with Sky have been told they cannot be upgraded to 80/20 because of network issues.

Is the Dslam very different from a regular Huawei 128 port cabinet equipment, if not why do they not use a regular unit, there would appear to be plenty of space to accommodate the extra punch blocks for the PCP side of things ?

Is it connected to the backhaul in a different way ?


Help !.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 21-Dec-19 14:22:13
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The DSLAM in All In One cabinets is 100% identical to that in the smaller Huawei cabinets.

They aren't connected to the network any different.

The only difference is the big green shell covering it.
Standard User epyon
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 21-Dec-19 20:10:14
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your isp will be the problem if its a throughput issue.

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