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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 29-Dec-18 02:24:56
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Re: Correlation between FTTC speeds and G.FAST?


[re: Andrue] [link to this post]
 
Interestingly enough back when the DSL checker was showing planned information for G.fast back in March 2018 it was telling me that my clean range was 330-330 Mbps for downstream!

Approx. 200m from the cabinet, probably a mix of copper and aluminium. Currently syncing max 80/20 6 dB downstream (actual usually ~6.8 dB) with G.INP. Sync speed has only ever been close to handback with an open profile, but with G.INP it has always been max.

I doubt that 330 Mbps will be possible when enabled, but we shall see!
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Sat 29-Dec-18 03:05:49
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Re: Correlation between FTTC speeds and G.FAST?


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DSL checker was showing planned information for G.fast back in March 2018 it was telling me that my clean range was 224-254 Mbps for downstream!

Approx. 248m from the cabinet with currently syncing 80/20 with 6dB downstream with G.INP enabled with low interleave with max rate of 83/28.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 29-Dec-18 08:37:18
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Re: Correlation between FTTC speeds and G.FAST?


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In reply to a post by j0el:
Sorry that it is a late response, but cabinet 15 is already enabled for G.fast. "G.Fast" showing as a column in the observed speeds is a sign that G.fast is enabled on the cabinet.

It certainly looks like you are out of range, at least according to the DSL checker. It looks like you won't be able to get it, even if you wanted. frown I apologise if I am just repeating knoweldge.
No, I wasn't aware. I didn't particularly want it (certainly don't need it having nearly 70Mb/s already). But it seems odd how it just goes live with no announcement and we weren't even on any roll-out list. I might enquire with IDNet anyway out of curiosity. Thanks for your help.

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK


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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Sat 29-Dec-18 11:29:33
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Re: Correlation between FTTC speeds and G.FAST?


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Those on the limits of G.Fast can't order and show as "Amber" instead of "Available".
If nothing shows at all then you are out of reach.

No idea what talking to an ISP is going to achieve, no idea why that was suggested to you, it won't help.

At 340m and syncing at 70/20 IF (That's an if, but in reality it's a no) you scraped on to a G.Farce package you would be getting nearer 100/10Mb.

Note that your upload halves at the very far end of the working G.Fast range.

Later amendments of G.Fast may reach those distances.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 29-Dec-18 11:54:19
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Re: Correlation between FTTC speeds and G.FAST?


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Those on the limits of G.Fast can't order and show as "Amber" instead of "Available".
If nothing shows at all then you are out of reach.
Thanks. That really does confirm the stupidity of G.FAST then. I had assumed that anyone getting 60Mb/s or higher would be within range but if even I can't the range must be lousy. I've posted before that it sounded like a good idea for small not spot deployment but when BT realised it wasn't feasible they should have knocked it on the head and rerouted the money into FTTP.

Oh well, it means I won't be wasting money on something I don't need anyway smile

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 29-Dec-18 14:10:26
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Well after years and i mean years of badgering my isp (plusnet) and seeing 30+ bto engineers come and go bto have finally replaced the aluminum link in my run to the green box as it kept flooding and causing battery faults dramtic speed drops i.e 65mb to 28mbit drop.

Now i have a fully stable line showing a max sync of 82mbit and 28.5up at 6.5db with a distance of 398mtr. I am wondering if with my distance there will be any point ordering when it becomes alvailable to me.

It's in certain parts of my city but not my huawei cab yet.

Btw swapping from a 612 old bt huawei odem to a billion 8800axl same snr gave me 8mbit in speed difference.

Totally amazed me
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 29-Dec-18 15:57:26
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odd how it just goes live with no announcement
Out of curiosity who should make the announcement. Openreach to all served by the cabinet or in this case G-Fast, BT Wholesale and the other wholesalers or the ISPs, not all of whom offer G-Fast.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 29-Dec-18 19:01:17
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The thing is, Openreach does do announcements on the news part of their website. They have announced and listed exchanges to get G.fast. Though, I am pretty sure that not every place is announced on there (or at least, so far, some places were not announced).

Granted, the announcements on the Openreach news site apparently does not give information regarding specific cabinets. But people can still at least enquire with their ISP regarding it if the exchange area is enabled.

Unlike with BDUK, which had local (usually by county or counties) projects and information to raise awareness of faster broadband (to increase take up), the commercial G.fast rollout does not have the same detail of information on the surface unless you are willing to go digging.

ISPs can list the packages on their website with the possibility for potential customers to be notified once the technology is available to them (like BT does).
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 29-Dec-18 21:48:01
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In reply to a post by djay:
Now i have a fully stable line showing a max sync of 82mbit and 28.5up at 6.5db with a distance of 398mtr. I am wondering if with my distance there will be any point ordering when it becomes alvailable to me.


Nope.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 29-Dec-18 22:29:20
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Currently G.Fast uses higher frequencies than VDSL, so if you think about it any connection which can't reach 80/20 with some spare headroom is not going to be able to make use of G.Fast (the frequencies are just to high), unless of course their speed has been eroded by cross talk to under 80/20.

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