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Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Fri 15-Mar-19 12:56:53
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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Just had my quote through of £11,700 plus vat.

Nearest node is 6-800m away.

Premises passed they reckon is 4 but I�m sure it�s more than that.

I guess if I pay for the survey, they may find it is a few more?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 15-Mar-19 13:28:30
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Just had my quote through of £11,700 plus vat.

Nearest node is 6-800m away.

Premises passed they reckon is 4 but I�m sure it�s more than that.

I guess if I pay for the survey, they may find it is a few more?


I doubt they will find more - the desktop should catch that. What the DT does - or did - was take a very worst case scenario on construction. So for most people the actual cost of construction was much lower.
Standard User candlerb
(committed) Fri 15-Mar-19 14:02:13
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Premises passed they reckon is 4 but I�m sure it�s more than that.


No, "premises passed" means "premises where FTTP service will be made available". They will make FTTP available at a single Distribution Point (DP), which is usually a pole or pavement chamber. It will be whichever DP serves you plus 4 other properties.

The fibre route to the aggregation node may go alongside many other properties, but the fibre isn't broken out and those properties won't be served by it.

Based on past experience from members of this forum, if you go ahead to full survey your final price is likely to be <75% of your initial quote, and if you're lucky it could be 50% or less.

Edited by candlerb (Fri 15-Mar-19 18:14:29)


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Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Fri 15-Mar-19 17:21:25
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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That's true but thinking about it if Openreach don't enable every other DP on route they are being really rather stupid IMHO. The incremental cost of putting in those extra DP's compared to coming back and doing it later (which inevitably they will need to) is really rather small.

Of course the thinking that does not do that, comes from the same bunch of twits that declared thousands of cabinets as not commercially viable to upgrade to VDSL, which then magically turned out to be when they where subsidized by the public purse and the take up was way higher then they thought, but should have been obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.
Standard User candlerb
(committed) Fri 15-Mar-19 18:20:07
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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That's true but thinking about it if Openreach don't enable every other DP on route they are being really rather stupid IMHO. The incremental cost of putting in those extra DP's compared to coming back and doing it later (which inevitably they will need to) is really rather small.


You'd think so; although I can also imagine that if a duct is nearly full, you might be able to squeeze in one FTTPoD order but not add everything.

In my case, the desktop survey said 14 properties passed - which implied doing all the DPs down one side of the street. After survey this was reduced to just myself plus two neighbours, being served by the same pavement chamber.

Not that it has been installed yet, but this is all I'm expecting. It would certainly be nice if half the street got it as a side effect though.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Mar-19 18:25:23
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But that would make those �early adopters� quotes astronomical wouldn�t it ... meaning they wouldn�t go for it ....

Openreach are a company not a charity. They need to make a profit.

I suspect quite a few regulars on here see the world through geek tinted glasses.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 16-Mar-19 11:08:13
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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In reply to a post by jabuzzard:
That's true but thinking about it if Openreach don't enable every other DP on route they are being really rather stupid IMHO.
Are you really saying that if a FTTPoD install passes thousands of properties OR should enable all those properties? that would be crazy. Who would pay for the additional work and what about the additional time it would take to do it. Openreach already can't handle huge amounts of FTTPoD orders to then add possibly thousands more properties to the job would create a bigger bottleneck and delay other FTTPoD installs.
Standard User lincsat
(learned) Sat 16-Mar-19 13:44:01
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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In reply to a post by dect:
In reply to a post by jabuzzard:
That's true but thinking about it if Openreach don't enable every other DP on route they are being really rather stupid IMHO.
Are you really saying that if a FTTPoD install passes thousands of properties OR should enable all those properties? that would be crazy. Who would pay for the additional work and what about the additional time it would take to do it. Openreach already can't handle huge amounts of FTTPoD orders to then add possibly thousands more properties to the job would create a bigger bottleneck and delay other FTTPoD installs.


It would make sense to me that if the Fibre had to pass through chambers that would ultimately be used by a DP, they could put a DP in there ready or at the very least, leave a loop of fibre so there is enough to easily add one later.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 16-Mar-19 16:34:47
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 3


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That would make sense to me to, their end game is to get the whole country covered with fibre so surely it make sense to help that along when doing FTTPod installs, even if it won't be used for years to come. It could make someone else FTTPod install affordable and thus expand the network further again.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 16-Mar-19 17:05:34
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Closed due to size - part 4 it is


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So for all those still tracking their FoD orders as thread got to the length where it can be a pain have closed this, and just needs someone to start the part 4.

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