In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If the community wide feeling is that I should retire from helping on forums then so be it

We could have a vote on it... I suspect it would come firmly in favour of you continuing to help as much as you are able as most of us appreciate the time and effort you spend here.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Meanwhile the OP has not reappeared . It wasn't even dect's question LOL

I must admit after Andrew's first reply I was no wiser than before asking hence my no reply although appreciate any response of course.

Mr Saffron's second reply this morning explained everything nicely to which I thank you.

We had a brief discussion in another post not long ago regarding "Newbies" like myself not understanding the terms / shortcuts / abbreviations to which most of you use in posts regarding fibre, networking, broadband in general.

Please accept my apology for not spending more time on here not learning the trade / descriptions as running my business takes up a lot of my time.

I came here looking for some simple answers from the experts hence I mentioned "Zarjaz or anyone" in my subject line because they are experts in this field.

Sadly I am not although picking things up as I go along.

The old saying remains "If you don't ask you don't get to know"

That still applies with me.

Thank you to all for your input.

FTTP hopefully not too far away after many many years of waiting.

My current 1Mbps download is almost as bad as being back in the 56k modem days, That is still what I am using to send this post.

Not for long fingers crossed.

busterboy, I don't believe Mr.Saffron was seeking to baffle or obscure what your showed, it's just it didn't really show anything 'telling' at all.

Quite why I and Andrew received a tirade from Dect, who knows ????

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If the community wide feeling is that I should retire from helping on forums then so be it

That would lose people a lot of secondary checking and help for those who have hit an empasse with the ISP - Openreach interfaces

Andrew, you have taken my comment out of context

I actually said

In reply to a post by dect:

Maybe if you didn't try to be across ever active thread and left others in the know to respond to threads more information may flow between people which is what forums are about.

Credit where credit is due the work you do is great and I'm sure everyone appreciates that including me. I was simply trying to say that maybe you shouldn't spread yourself so thinly across so many threads as your quick posts sometime stifle conversation in my opinion.

If anyone want to hammer me for my thoughts then feel free as I won't be making any further comment on this matter.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

busterboy, I don't believe Mr.Saffron was seeking to baffle or obscure what your showed, it's just it didn't really show anything 'telling' at all.

Quite why I and Andrew received a tirade from Dect, who knows ????

Zarjaz

I suppose if I am honest I was probably hoping to receive an answer like

"Looking at those pictures not long now, just got this to do and that to do and you will be up and running, probably looking for a timescale"

For a man of my age 63 I'm like a young kid waiting to get a new toy.

I guess I'll just keep an eye on these guy's and wait.

"Looking at those pictures not long now, just got this to do and that to do and you will be up and running, probably looking for a timescale" laugh

Ah... but this is B.T.Group.... so the question becomes "how long is a bit of string.... and having installed some twine are we sure its in the right place?"

I understand your frustration, our service was rolled out under the "Superfarce Cymru" scheme and we had to watch as Openjoke firstly surrounded us with FTTC, then after a pause - finally stood a cabinet... only to take it away a few weeks later.... before replacing it on the opposite side of some open space and then waited ages for it to go live. By dint of near obsessive use of the availability checker, I was actually up and running before the official availability notification arrived.

My ex employers village had bundles hanging from poles for around a year while they sorted issues in the area and yet, another friend saw his area completed in weeks. There really is no reliable time scale - which doesnt help you much... but at least progress is being made...

"Looking at those pictures not long now, just got this to do and that to do and you will be up and running, probably looking for a timescale"

But as many of these threads have shown, time and again, there are no hard and fast rules to Openreach's roll out. Weeks, months, years .........

I do know that the roll out is growing apace ........

Just sit tight, enjoy the anticipation.

I think the community here would see you withdrawing from participation as a great loss to the community.

I used to Admin a (now defunct) consumer site, I know what a drain on time it can be - and even how thankless a task it is sometimes. Im not the longest standing member by a long way, but I have always appreciated the well run feel of this site and ADSL Guide.... (seems so long ago now DSL arrived... so much to learn again... )

We are fortunate that the staff here are so professional in their approach, long may it continue!

I've been a forum member for many many years.
Andrew, you've always been courteous and very helpful.
I'm shocked that anyone would criticise you just because you didn't answer an unasked question!

Always happy for people to post more e.g.in addition to, or the longer version is type posts

Remember this is not like some sites, where if one reply that seems to answer the question is made that a thread gets closed, threads are left open for people with follow up questions or to clarify things or point out mistakes etc