No provider has the right to build on private property. Developers can and do choose the providers of all 4 utilities. Not being contacted to build isn't really being locked out. VM aren't in every development within their passed areas.

Nothing stopping Openreach or anyone else building once roads are adopted and become publicly maintainable.

I'm moving to a new build that is Openreach only. It's FTTP but due to the equipment in use offers lower data rates than Virgin Media or any alternative FTTP provider that I'm aware of.

New builds are a weird and woolly thing.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

I'm moving to a new build that is Openreach only. It's FTTP but due to the equipment in use offers lower data rates than Virgin Media or any alternative FTTP provider that I'm aware of.

Can you describe this further? And can you show the output of the dslchecker for your property?

I've never heard of Openreach doing any sort of FTTP other than their standard FTTP build, and it seems very unlikely they would build something intentionally crippled.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

I'm moving to a new build that is Openreach only. It's FTTP but due to the equipment in use offers lower data rates than Virgin Media or any alternative FTTP provider that I'm aware of.

Can you describe this further? And can you show the output of the dslchecker for your property?

I've never heard of Openreach doing any sort of FTTP other than their standard FTTP build, and it seems very unlikely they would build something intentionally crippled.

Not recently at least. Whatever happened to the fibre built in the late 90s (Cambridge area?) where the residents petitioned to have copper overlay so that they could benefit from ADSL?

Virgin are now offering upto 500Mbits and most other FTTP providers offer gigabit services. Many openreach FTTP areas are limited to the 330Mbps service still.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Can you describe this further? And can you show the output of the dslchecker for your property?

I've never heard of Openreach doing any sort of FTTP other than their standard FTTP build, and it seems very unlikely they would build something intentionally crippled.

ECI OLTs. Openreach have no intention of decommissioning them any time soon. They only have gigabit CableLink capability so, despite being GPON facing the home or business, they are restricted by this.

Openreach do not sell above 330Mb on them for this reason.

Openreach provided specifications, ECI delivered equipment to them. Those specifications evidently didn't include 10G ports.

The TPON - still ongoing

Some now have VDSL2, some now have FTTP, some now have ADSL2+ a very small number may still be as they were

What IgnitionNet is referring to is the ECI areas with 330 Mbps maximum service on FTTP

NOTE:

Not all new build roads get adopted - e.g. gated community dev's with private roads

The move to builder owned/run alt-nets is interesting and not impressed at all about lack of hard information they give, other than a nice bit of PR fluff.

In most cases there is likely to be a lock in of some sort, e.g. no satellite or TV aerials, so in early years while road is not adopted the builder will be the only option other than mobile.

The length of time before a road gets adopted will vary but on an estate of several phases it may not happen until last property is done and council is happy with the standard of road build and paperwork done at which point code powers kick in and others can roll-out if they want to.

Preaching to the converted on that one. You know better than most the issues around our current property with both broadband and telephony.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

ECI OLTs. Openreach have no intention of decommissioning them any time soon. They only have gigabit CableLink capability so, despite being GPON facing the home or business, they are restricted by this.

Openreach do not sell above 330Mb on them for this reason.

Openreach provided specifications, ECI delivered equipment to them. Those specifications evidently didn't include 10G ports.

Yeah slightly mind boggling why Openreach opted for ECI rather than Huawei hardware in some cases on their FTTP rollout. But in reality, the average Joe Bloggs won't require more than 330 Mbps on FTTP for many many years yet (I'd say at least a decade) so its a bit of a non-issue for the majority of users on ECI FTTP kit at present.

Agreed, however I'm not Joe Bloggs so reserve the right to be irritated I am moving from a hybrid network to full fibre and can't purchase the same tiers.