In reply to a post by candlerb:

As I understand it: BT Wholesale only used to offer a 330/30 FTTPoD product. Now they also offer a 1000/220 and a 500/165. But you won't see the change until a property's database entry is updated for some reason.

FTTP On Demand on BT Wholesale is only available up to a max of 330/30, despite what the DSL checker may show. In the OPs case its an error on the database and should be cleared up once the OP goes live. Then it will most likely change to 'FTTP WBC 1000/220' (and likely his neighbours as well).

Edited by deleted (Tue 21-May-19 10:11:46)

My FTTP availability has recently changed from 330/30 to 1000/220, around 4 Months into my FTTPoD contract, so either BT are upgrading exchanges or it's just a database catchup

In reply to a post by lincsat:

My FTTP availability has recently changed from 330/30 to 1000/220, around 4 Months into my FTTPoD contract, so either BT are upgrading exchanges or it's just a database catchup

Well if the head end was Huawei but it lacked backhaul at 10G then its possible that this has now been upgraded.

Now that OR have released their faster consumer tier pricing thought I would revist this topic.

I've had my WBC FTTP for comming up to 1 year now, BTW checker still lists the maximum as 330/50, yet I have seen other properties on the same exchange (and same cabinet, but don't really think that has much to do with it) that report 1000/200.

I'm still confused as to exactly what is restricting my maximum to 330. If others on the exchange are showing 1000/200 then I assume the exchange doesn't have ECI OLT. Would other addresses connected on the same cabinet, be connected to the same Aggregation Node too? Or is that where the issue might lie?

I am assuming that if the checker is saying 330/50 then once the 500 and 1000 consumer tiers become avaialble to order from ISP's i'll be in a 'computer says no' position. Pretty much like the last 10 years before we finally got FTTP

Your FTTP line might be connected to an ECI OLT at the exchange whilst those who can get 1000/220 are connected to a Huawei OLT at the same exchange - I believe Openreach can/do use both at the same exchange. Then there's also the issue of FTTP hardware used between the exchange and your home (not fttc cabs!) - the kit used by your circuit may not support the higher speeds. TBH for 99.99% of users, its a bit of a non-issue and when the day comes that 330 Mbps isn't enough for the average punter, Openreach will have upgraded the kit on the 'slower' FTTP lines well before then.

The back of your ONT would be a huge giveaway.
If it's an ECI ONT then it's connected to ECI equipment.

I don't think they mix and match vendors on FTTP kit.

Records aren't automatically upgraded for every property to show the higher tiers so not necessarily ECI kit.

Its only the very first (1st gen) Openreach ONTs which are ECI - they were first released around 2012. Gen 2 & 3 are all Huawei and the 330/50 limit also applies to some with a Huawei ONT installed.

Edited by deleted (Thu 19-Sep-19 13:52:13)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Its only the very first (1st gen) Openreach ONTs which are ECI - they were first released around 2012. Gen 2 & 3 are all Huawei and the 330/50 limit still exists even with those using Huawei ONTs.

I'm aware of the newer generations of ONT's from Huawei, for the Huawei OLT's.

Any 330/50 limit for users with Huawei ONT's does not mean they must be on ECI Head-Ends.

A quote from the knowledgeable Carl recently.

BT will provision Nokia ONTs with Nokia OLTs.

They will provision Huawei ONTs with Huawei OLTs.

Sadly they will provision ECI ONTs with ECI OLTs.

GPON provisioning is not standardised. Operators do it in their own proprietary way so Openreach don�t mix and match vendors across the PON. To do so complicates provisioning and loses them a bunch of visibility, management and telemetry.

With that in mind this is the new Huawei ONT. The new Nokia one is for Nokia ONTs. The same ECI kit for the awful ECI OLT configuration.

Manufacturers are unlikely to provide ways to use another ONT on their OLT. Why would they when they can make the £££ selling every ONT connecting to their kit instead?

This has always been my understanding of the situation.

edit: according to OpenReach only 50,000 on the ECI FTTP kit so no surprise you don't see much and usually see the newer ONT's.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 19-Sep-19 13:54:00)

I know mine is the 4 data port Huawei version.

But are you sure the 2012 models are all ECI?
Our exchange is using Huawei hardware and half of my area was upgraded back in 2011 - 2012.

Paul

Looking at these pics of the gen1 ONT, its got a manufacture date of 2012:

https://thecomputerperson.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/t...