In reply to a post by tdw42:

Is that very new? The last install I saw a couple of months ago was the combined enclosure with a BBU and HG8110 ONT with sockets for one ethernet and one POTS connection.

Yep, the very latest ONT is 1+0 (1 RJ45 port + 0 FVA port), however I don't think (m)any are out in the wild just yet. Will be interesting to see if the external housing is ditched on this as theres no need for a BBU anymore d/t the absence of a voice port.

Unless as has been suggested VOIP is made available? The BBU would be needed to support that.

There are multiple current alarm systems, not just against burglary but also devices for old or disabled people to trigger if they fall etc.

In time if course those systems would be replaced by pure internet ones, but that loops us back to the need for the connection to stay up when mains power fails. Exactly the time when such people are likely to have an accident.

Hence the Salisbury trial which while not likely to make the national press unless it is a disaster will no doubt be covered locally a lot.

Moving towards the voice port being part of the Sky/BT/TalkTalk hardware rather than something in the Openreach hardware. Advantage is that for a retailer who uses multiple networks the voice part can be the same since its their own CPE controlling it.

Where a switch to voice over broadband is hardest is those who want nothing to do with broadband but simply just want an old fashioned phone. So like we had people paid to assist during TV digital switchover we will get something similar most likely with the voice switch.

Will be interesting to see if the external housing is ditched on this as theres no need for a BBU anymore d/t the absence of a voice port.

That�s the way I read it.

So all phone or internet-based alarm systems fail immediately on a power cut?

My family is in transition - we use mobiles but some like the convenience and functionality of DECT landline phones which are always in fixed positions in the flat and are programmed with family and friends. We really ought to get used to mobile only, but I plan to indulge them by using an ATA on VOIP and porting in the landline number.

The landline is used for incoming calls from family, and a few hours a month outgoing anytime to UK landlines and mobiles. I'd love to have your ideas about possible providers.

Incidentally we are about to have FTTP installed by G.network in central London. The first mention on this forum? Their tariffs are here https://www.g.network/residential/

Not if you supply your own UPS.

I used to swear by APC. Maybe I'll buy some shares in them �.

We clock up around 30 hours of landline and 20 hours of mobile calls per month. Majority of the landline calls are evening and weekend, Majority of mobile calls are daytime.
Looking to see what TalkTalk and Sky will be offering when they come into the market for OR FTTP, I note that TalkTalk have an offer of free calls on their own FTTH product, but doubt that will be on general offer across the board, also my contract runs out in couple of months and there is no indication as to when TalkTalk will be using OR FTTP.

TalkTalk, unlike Sky, are planning to roll out their own FTTP network nationwide so they may never sell full fibre on the Openreach platform. Sky will be offering Openreach based FTTP & gfast by the end of 2019, offering speeds of up to 1 Gig.

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