Mmm not convinced about the change, particularly as our aim for FTTP is to only show it when the majority can order FTTP.

So your suggestion does nothing to help differentiate from FoD or GEA-FTTP

That depends what you mean by a workable speed. At 1 mile the speed could be around 20mbps which is perfectly workable for many.

If I could get 20meg I wouldn't have bothered with 4GEE (from which I only get around 20-30meg anyway).

So what exactly am I doing wrong with PO20 7JP?

Simple terms please.

It is a postcode served solely by cabinet 9, we warn VDSL2 is available but speeds likely to be below 24 Mbps. So gets a yellow dot for VDSL2/FTTP (i.e. Openreach fibre layer) representing a range of 4 Mbps to 23.99999 Mbps.

Deep dive gives estimate of 15 Mbps for VDSL2 and BT Wholesale say 11 to 24 Mbps and Ofcom says 80 Mbps to some but not all premises, but when you look at the individual premises is shows things like 29 Mbps.

OP here and a bit confused. After all those replies I still don't really know what a Fibre First exchange is or what it means.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

OP here and a bit confused. After all those replies I still don't really know what a Fibre First exchange is or what it means.

Basically a switch from more and more FTTC and G.Fast rollout by Openreach to pure FTTP. PR page.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Basically a switch from more and more FTTC and G.Fast rollout by Openreach to pure FTTP.

I think I was originally trying to ask: when an exchange is Fibre FIrst do most folk get the option of FTTP. Or is then another wait while the cable are laid. What are the experiences of areas which are now FF exchanges (as shown on the OR map)? Edinburgh for example has four completed FF exchanges.

The experience varies a lot, so its not 100% uniform FTTP at this time, difficult cases often get left but then sometimes do get done at a later date.

In terms of experiences, while some will bite your hand off to upgrade to FTTP as most Fibre First is in areas where they had a decent speed option already e.g. via VDSL2 or Virgin Media cable the vast majority are sitting tight and happy paying what they do now. This where being a Fibre First exchange differs from the usual commercial roll-out - Fibre First exchanges are at the vanguard of the larger ambitions and people will get migrated en-masse to FTTP.

Whitchurch Cardiff was one of the first to go live, and as such took a long time to get going. A large part was cabled up before any went live, about 60% was available when any went live then the rest as each pole was completed. Some is still being worked on as problems are solved. Flats were /are the last to be done but small blocks served by overhead were available when their pole gone live. Larger blocks have not all been completed yet, ( I assume due to landlord wayleave issues)

As it was rolled into further Cardiff exchanges it has gone live as each part was completed so now a rolling program by street / Pole . Not aware of underground rollout as it is not visible but assume it is the same.

There is now a significant area of the city covered and build is constantly expanding.

Hope this helps with your original question

In reply to a post by kitcat:

Hope this helps with your original question

Yes! Thank you! Maybe I'll see FTTP down our ducts in a few years rather than decades then!

This lot of 103 Fibre First areas are part of a wider 4 million target, which has a deadline of 31st March 2021, so should be within 18 months if its coming to you