You will have to keep an eye out for a Fibre contractor putting Splitters in Pavement boxes or pulling fibre cabling through duct. It was easy to identify on poles as you can see all the fittings but much harder on underground as you have to spot them working.

Only some of the work is likely to be done directly by OR, most appears to have gone to contractors. In Cardiff they have sped up significantly as they have learnt how to deal with all the different situation they can come across.

It is likely that they will be slow to start in Glasgow as they build experience up, unless they move people from Edinburgh to help coach anyone new.

I don't think you are doing anything wrong, Andrew, it is just that I am certain that 85% of the properties in that postcode get less than 5mbps. Why are they not able to 'order' FTTP via a voucher scheme? 1 mile away they can (Bracklesham).

andyhurley "That depends what you mean by a workable speed. At 1 mile the speed could be around 20mbps which is perfectly workable for many." A large number of people in my 'FTTC area' (not PO20) would be delighted by that 'news', but very disappointed. At 1 mile the speed is awful, as it is in PO20 - nothing like 20.

In reply to a post by mikejp:

Why are they not able to 'order' FTTP via a voucher scheme?

There's no such thing as "ordering FTTP via a voucher scheme". What there is, is to order FTTPoD (with or without a voucher), or form a Community Fibre Partnership (ditto).

FTTPoD is only available to areas served by FTTC. This is a coarse mechanism to restrict FTTPoD to areas which have fibre somewhere nearby. Community Fibre Partnerships are not subject to this restriction.

FTTPoD is also not available to MDUs (i.e. flats) - I'm not sure what view CFPs have on that.

Because voucher schemes are not services where fibre manifold has been delivered very close already to the property allowing an install in the normal sort of time frames.

The voucher schemes are more to do with Fibre On Demand or stimulating a provider who has no infrastructure in the area to deliver and if we were to flag postcodes where vouchers might deliver FTTP if someone was to order it and be happy to wait might be a year, then the FTTP coverage would very close to 100% of the UK.

OK - that is a lot clearer, Andrew. I don't think it is very clear to Mr G P how to go about getting it! Voucher or community scheme - how is he to know?

In the case of the RH20 the poled fibre ends a few hundred yards from many other properties and they (18/19 properties) are still waiting a response to the CF scheme. Over a month now.

https://gigabitvoucher.culture.gov.uk

Yes, Andrew - you can see we are all aware of that, but the question was how does Mr G P know what to do - which route to choose - voucher or community? Not helped by the usual government cock-up of screwing up the link to "Broadband for Rural Communities"

In reply to a post by mikejp:

Yes, Andrew - you can see we are all aware of that, but the question was how does Mr G P know what to do - which route to choose - voucher or community? Not helped by the usual government cock-up of screwing up the link to "Broadband for Rural Communities"

He will just have to decide for himself as he would with any other decision.

Rules of thumb:

1. if the OP is outside of FTTPoD coverage, then CFP is the only option. To find out, OP should put their phone number or exact address into dslchecker) and look for "FTTP on demand: available"
2. for Multi-Dwelling Units (MDU) or Multi-Occupancy Units (MOU), then again CFP is the only option.
3. if the OP is only interested in service for themselves, or maybe joining with one other property, then FTTPoD will be the simplest option.
4. if the expected costs are high, and the only option is to share costs between users and/or pool gigabit vouchers, then CFP will be the best approach.

The FTTPoD process is as follows.

1. You pick an FTTPoD provider and ask them for a free desktop quote. This will give you a near-random estimate of the cost, normally an over-estimate.
2. You place the order and pay £250+VAT. Openreach will perform a physical survey and tell you the final exact cost to be paid on top of this - this stage normally takes 2 or 3 months. Meanwhile, if you are eligible for a business gigabit voucher, you can apply for it.
3. You have 30 days either to accept the quote and pay the full amount (less gigabit voucher if approved), or to withdraw (and forfeit the original £250+VAT paid)
4. Openreach builds and delivers the service.
5. For the first year, you pay an elevated price (e.g. Cerberus: £100+VAT per month for 330/30)
6. After 12 months you can regrade to a regular FTTP service from any provider of your choice.

You cannot use residential gigabit vouchers for FTTPoD unless you are linking orders with a business, and linked FTTPoD orders make things complicated.

For CFP, the step-by-step process is described here. It's more complex but there is some flexibility, e.g. if your community wants to do some self-dig of ducts, this can be incorporated.

Since we know nothing about Mr G P and are talking via a proxy it is impossible to other any advice beyond saying perhaps they should contact some of the suppliers to see what they can offer

Wessex Internet Ltd
B4RN
Spectrum Internet LTD
Millennium Telecom Ltd
Openreach
Fibre Options Ltd.
Pine Media
G.Network Communications Limited
Ecom Fibre (Electronic Communities Ltd)
Box Broadband Ltd
WarwickNet Ltd T/A Glide Business
Fibre for Rural Nottinghamshire Ltd
Boundless Networks
TrueSpeed Communications Ltd
Airband Community
Cerberus Networks
Datacentres Ltd
Gigabair
6G Internet Ltd
Airfibre Limited
Lonsdale Network Services Ltd
TxRx Communications Ltd
IFB
The Comms Guys Ltd
VTSL Ltd

If the only name that is familiar is Openreach their scheme is at https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/community-...

One presumes they've tried Zoom and its wireless service already and it was not available.