(off topic) ... but you�re not the Hans Delbruck are you ?

it doesn't look as if they'll be doing FTTP on an individual house basis.

Three years ago Hyperoptic were more than happy to supply our development of 39 low rise flats and 36 mews style houses. There would have been two FTTP "hubs" with distribution to the various flats and houses via gigabit ethernet. For a number of reasons we chose not to proceed.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

(off topic) ... but you�re not the Hans Delbruck are you ?

I've a hunch I might be.

In reply to a post by MCM:

(with my emphasis)
Three years ago Hyperoptic were more than happy to supply our development of 39 low rise flats and 36 mews style houses. There would have been two FTTP "hubs" with distribution to the various flats and houses via gigabit ethernet. For a number of reasons we chose not to proceed.

Apologies - when I said "an individual house" I meant "an individual house already existing in an urban area"

My fathers work was do-do.

Each house was individual but part of a terrace. All pre-existing having been built in 1989 and the discussion with Hyperoptic were in 2014/15.

Generally a satellite dish installation is not a thing of beauty, not sure what would be expected in this case to make it acceptable.

Hyperoptic was flexible enough when cabling ours. They did not do any concealed installations, which I think is understandable but when we requested it, they left plenty of cable on a coil hidden in a conduit so that our builder could use that. Now the cable is completely hidden behind architraves and skirting boards. Hyperoptic did not do this but they were as helpful as they possibly could.

In reply to a post by MCM:

Each house was individual but part of a terrace. All pre-existing having been built in 1989 and the discussion with Hyperoptic were in 2014/15.

OK - I misconstrued what you said, I thought you were involved in the development of that housing.

OOI, I assume you must have got a number of residents on board, or else Hyperoptic would not have bothered to enter into discussions. Putting to one side the fact that it didn't progress (did they ever say why?), what sort of property numbers were needed for them to be initially interested?

In reply to a post by hvis42:

Generally a satellite dish installation is not a thing of beauty, not sure what would be expected in this case to make it acceptable.

1. Mount it as high as possible - not every house has a chimney, but if it does...
2. Take the cable(s) from it into the house right where it is mounted - a small drip loop is all that needs to be on show. Once inside the house it can all be concealed in the same way that your electrical cables are concealed.

Hyperoptic was flexible enough when cabling ours. They did not do any concealed installations, which I think is understandable

Would you be as understanding if an electrician said that he wasn't going to conceal any cables he installed for you?

but when we requested it, they left plenty of cable on a coil hidden in a conduit so that our builder could use that. Now the cable is completely hidden behind architraves and skirting boards. Hyperoptic did not do this but they were as helpful as they possibly could.

I would fully expect to pay more, or be responsible, for cabling inside my house. My main concern about FTTP is the exterior mess that seems to be acceptable.

Retro fitting a satellite dish with for example an entry point in the roof and chased cabling down to the ground floor is not a cheap or easy job to do.

So while this is the standards you hold, many people will not be able to afford the labour costs involved. The same happens when people ask for extension sockets e.g. price will vary according to whether surface mount trunking or chased cabling is wanted.

In a new build the situation is different as trunking can be positioned ahead of time for the services that are expected.