In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Not at present..... it�ll take a 2 to 5 pair UG feed too.

Sorry Zarjaz, while I'm on a roll with my questions could I ask one more

Do they still do an internal CSP?

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

I am assuming that Openreach are using angled physical SC connectors (APC) rather than the normal "flat" ones (UPC).

Yes, SC/APC connectors are used.

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

Or just pre-install some SC-SC APC simplex fibre and use a coupler to join it to the Openreach terminated fibre.

I believe that's technically not permitted: the demarcation point of the service is the RJ45 port on the NTE, anything before that is part of Openreach's service provision.

Of course, if you get a friendly engineer and feed them biscuits, they'll probably install it however you like. But if the service later fails, and an engineer visit is required, and they claim (rightly or wrongly) that the problem is due to an issue with your cable, in theory you could end up paying for the repair.

You would be much better off getting the OR engineer to run *their* fibre all the way. As has been mentioned before, the inner white fibre is very thin. It could easily be tacked to a skirting board, and is no more obtrusive than a traditional telephone cable.

Yes, they are the same as the original external ones.

Yep, as previously mentioned, stripping the black outer covering off of any reasonable length is a huge pain.

In coming years Openreach staff will nod sagely towards your install and be able to date right down to about a three year period ........ and maybe mutter that you �got your money�s worth.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes, they are the same as the original external ones.

Thanks, you're a true legend just like Mr Barson

Nah, he�s up there with the cherubim and seraphim ...

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Nah, he�s up there with the cherubim and seraphim ...

His a good lad, will stop and talk to anyone

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

You must remember that FTTP is still a �new� concept for most builders, so there�s no thought for such things in the build of many/most properties.

I�ve not physically had my hands on any yet, only read about it .... but have seen a similar product used in flats, and it seemed to be following the up and over door frames route OK.

The usual generalisation is that the radius should be no tighter than a ten pence piece .....

I went to a company in Basingstoke who had fibre that could be literally knitted with no loss ..... their or the products name, I don�t recall right now.

The standard external Corning external fibre (connectorised stuff) can be tied in knots and still works. Not sure they use Corning for internal stuff, but whatever it is (EZ Bend?) it can also be banged, tied in knots etc. More resilient than copper in some ways.

In reply to a post by SiPurdy:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I went to a company in Basingstoke who had fibre that could be literally knitted with no loss ..... their or the products name, I don�t recall right now.

I remember Corning having a fibre that could do that, press anouncement a few years back.

Well remembered. That�s what Openreach use now.

Edited by deleted (Tue 03-Dec-19 21:51:37)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

You must remember that FTTP is still a �new� concept for most builders, so there�s no thought for such things in the build of many/most properties.

I�ve not physically had my hands on any yet, only read about it .... but have seen a similar product used in flats, and it seemed to be following the up and over door frames route OK.

The usual generalisation is that the radius should be no tighter than a ten pence piece .....

I went to a company in Basingstoke who had fibre that could be literally knitted with no loss ..... their or the products name, I don�t recall right now.

The standard external Corning external fibre (connectorised stuff) can be tied in knots and still works. Not sure they use Corning for internal stuff, but whatever it is (EZ Bend?) it can also be banged, tied in knots etc. More resilient than copper in some ways.