In reply to a post by candlerb:

Of course, if you get a friendly engineer and feed them biscuits, they'll probably install it however you like. But if the service later fails, and an engineer visit is required, and they claim (rightly or wrongly) that the problem is due to an issue with your cable, in theory you could end up paying for the repair.

Except that if I had a fault I would temporarily move ONT back to where the coupler is and plug in direct into the Openreach SC fibre connector. This is no different than having to use the test socket on an NTE5 to eliminate extension wiring. Again there seems to be this bizarre view out there that fibre is some mystical black art that is as delicate as a snowflake. In my 15 years experience working with fibre optic cable it's a load of cobblers.

You would be much better off getting the OR engineer to run *their* fibre all the way. As has been mentioned before, the inner white fibre is very thin. It could easily be tacked to a skirting board, and is no more obtrusive than a traditional telephone cable.

Yeah there is no way on gods good earth that you would be tacking any cable or fibre on anything in my house for anything other than a temporary measure till it is hidden in walls or under floors.

Frankly the notion that constant cleaning of fibre optic cable ends is another of those myths in my experience. Only ever had to do it once in over 15 years, and that was because the cable came with those awful push on ferrule cables for an LC cable and it came of as they are apt to do when I was running it to the switch in the data centre. They are also super easy to loose. That said I do always put dust caps on when unplugging for any length of time.

So these are the devils work

https://alker.co.uk/v1/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AK...

you want these instead, they positively clip on the end of an LC connector.

https://alker.co.uk/v1/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/AK...

The ferrule dust caps are more likely to stay on for SC connectors than LC, but still the devils work. You want these instead which in my experience don't accidentally come off.

https://alker.co.uk/v1/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SC...

Never said anything about constant cleaning.

Thinking more of people doing things like unplugging things for a day or two while decorating and not fitting dust caps for that duration

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Of course, if you get a friendly engineer and feed them biscuits, they'll probably install it however you like. But if the service later fails, and an engineer visit is required, and they claim (rightly or wrongly) that the problem is due to an issue with your cable, in theory you could end up paying for the repair.

Except that if I had a fault I would temporarily move ONT back to where the coupler is and plug in direct into the Openreach SC fibre connector. This is no different than having to use the test socket on an NTE5 to eliminate extension wiring. Again there seems to be this bizarre view out there that fibre is some mystical black art that is as delicate as a snowflake. In my 15 years experience working with fibre optic cable it's a load of cobblers.

You would be much better off getting the OR engineer to run *their* fibre all the way. As has been mentioned before, the inner white fibre is very thin. It could easily be tacked to a skirting board, and is no more obtrusive than a traditional telephone cable.

Yeah there is no way on gods good earth that you would be tacking any cable or fibre on anything in my house for anything other than a temporary measure till it is hidden in walls or under floors.

Lucky you. In some houses and apartments there�s simply no choice. The cable must be tacked to a skirting board.

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

Yeah there is no way on gods good earth that you would be tacking any cable or fibre on anything in my house for anything other than a temporary measure till it is hidden in walls or under floors.

Thats kind of my sentiment, and luckily I have the choice (if I work out how).

I wonder if something like https://www.hilltop-products.co.uk/pvc-flexible-hose... would work (If I got the right diameter)? Hopefully the OR guy could just push/pull the fibre through.

What sort of distance are you talking about? how would you deal with any tight bends as the sides of the hose may pinch if bent too much?

Point to point is about 4 metres, I just don't know the route taken.

The guy cut a hole in the upstairs floor to feed the cat5 run through and that's the only bit of the route that I'm aware of.

In reply to a post by SiPurdy:

Point to point is about 4 metres, I just don't know the route taken.

The guy cut a hole in the upstairs floor to feed the cat5 run through and that's the only bit of the route that I'm aware of.

May be worth sticking your head in that hole and taking a look as the run may not be too bad if the floor joists run in the right direction.

6mm nylon pipe is what Virgin use on fibre installs. When they do the pavement work they run a length from the cabinet to each pavement box (Toby). When they to the house install they run a piece from the Toby in the pavement to the wall mount box, its joined in the Toby with a 6mm push fit coupling, then the fibre blown through. I'm not sure if OR could use 6mm tube as I don't know how the ends are terminated.

If you have a local commercial (truck) parts factors nearby you'll be able to get 6mm nylon air pipe from them possible cheaper, although we do use Hilltop Products for their heat shrink.

When I built our house extension I ran a piece of 15mm OD tube to my coms room, it was perfect for when we had Virgin installed.

Hi R0NSKI

A 6mm pipe sounds a bit tight in my opinion (e.g. for what its worth) as this is the internal fibre cabling (we are not talking about blowing fibre through a tube although I have seen comments saying its a lot thinner than it use to be).

Could anyone with experience of Openreach's current internal fibre cabling comment on what would be a safe size tube (OD / ID) to install please.