In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I guess, also stripping many metres off the connectorised stuff was a HUGE pain.

So how was that done?

Since I first heard of that type of fibre cable and stripping the outer layer off. I wondered whether it was worth designing a tool for that job but decided that surely BT must already be using something to make the job quick and easy.

Don't have name for connector to hand, but definitely plugging directly into the manifold, so in this case the white outer tells us its for a manifold that is indoors, i.e. no black UV proof

Believe there was a tool that cut to the right depth, rather than old fashioned run a Stanley knife around cable. How tough to pull the outer off I don't know. Given a quiet day might see how hard it is to take a 1 metre segment off the bit I have hanging around.

Don�t bother ... it�s a huge PITA.

You use a �butterfly stripper� to split the end. Then just peel back the black outer coating ... except it doesn�t very often go that easily ... digging the white inner out to start with ... then remembering that any sharp kink might break its precious cargo.... and if it�s the overhead variety, then there�s the steel strengtheners on either side, these can aid stripping, but very often coil tightly round everything else. I�m hoping you can sense I�m not a fan.

One metre will be fairly simple, but remember it takes approx 5 just to go round a door frame.

The new inside out kits have pull cords at the SC end, splitting the black cleanly away.

Me I would just let Openreach install it by the front door, then when they have gone sneakily install a length of simplex APC SC-SC cable to where I wanted it using whatever route I fancied and used a APC SC-SC simplex coupler to join the two lengths together at the front door.

It will cost more for the shipping than the parts, for example at fs.com a 30m length with a 10mm bend radius will cost £5.40 and the coupler is 44p. You can of course get it made up with whatever length you choose.

https://www.fs.com/uk/products/41922.html

https://www.fs.com/uk/products/48491.html

however shipping will be £9.24 inc VAT.

I am sure now lots of people will wibble about not doing it etc. as it's technically not allowed. However as long as you are prepared to move the ONT back to where Openreach had it in the event of an issue don't frett, it's no different than having to test at the NTE5 master socket with a copper setup. Just don't loose the dust caps so you can stop the ends getting contaminated if you need to disconnect. stuff.

A lot of people seem to think that fibre optic cable is some sort of magic snowflake that requires a certified wizard to do anything with or it will break. In my experience (15+ years now working with it in data centres) while more delicate than copper it's not remotely fragile, especially the newer tight bend radius stuff like linked above.

If all new installations now need a CSP then that must mean all installation engineers now need a splicer, so the attempt to de-skill the engineers has failed and the cost for lots more splicers must be considerable.

Edited by deleted (Wed 08-Jan-20 17:37:59)

so here is what i'm talking about :
https://postimg.cc/gXxPnn7p

the far left by the gate is where i'd need it installed.
to the right is the front door where it currently comes in for copper.

now the bends it would need to take if it was to be tacked to the front of the house are 90degrees so can that cable bend like that?

thanks

Zarjaz is the best person to answer that

In reply to a post by bomber456:

so here is what i'm talking about :
https://postimg.cc/gXxPnn7p

the far left by the gate is where i'd need it installed.
to the right is the front door where it currently comes in for copper.

now the bends it would need to take if it was to be tacked to the front of the house are 90degrees so can that cable bend like that?

thanks

easiest way to get cables round a sharp brick corner like that is to dig out a bit of mortar on the outer corner to lessen/increase?? the radius ie make it gentler and then place the cable in the nice gently curved groove

Yep, I�d reckon so.